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Discussion of Buffy and Angel comics, books, and more. Please don't get into spoilery details in the first week of release.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 27, 2003 5:30:15 pm PST #1169 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Sorry, but he seems to have made it his life's work to inject a contemptuous disregard of others into every role he's cast in, to the point that I can't separate the actor from his characters. He's preceeded only by Pauly Shore and Carrot Top on my "Get the fuck off my TV screen!" list.


sumi - Oct 28, 2003 5:12:00 am PST #1170 of 10000
Art Crawl!!!

Ooh, Richard Coyle as the Doctor -- that would be fun.


tina f. - Oct 28, 2003 1:06:51 pm PST #1171 of 10000

Due to gift certificate having - I bought the SFX special edition Buffy magazine?, book? I don't know what it is. It's all Buffy - it comes in this sliding case - there is a magazine-ish thing, and a portfolio (just pics).

Anyway - point: The one thing that is it in that I have never seen before is a complete (and we're talking EVERYTHING) Buffyverse timeline. It counts ever Buffyverse show, comic, book and movie as canon. It goes back to the first Slayer and up to Fray.

I thought I'd mention it because I have always thought about what a pain in the ass it would be to do just one based on the shows and Joss-written comics. And lo and behold, it is done.

It has an ep guide w/ all 144 episodes and recent interviews with the cast and a foreword (very short) written by Joss, as well.


Jeff Mejia - Oct 28, 2003 5:46:17 pm PST #1172 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

I'll have to pick that up, tina. I've had a project on the back burner delineating the timeline of the Buffyverse for a while now. How much did that SFX special cost? I don't see what the worth of including the comics and the novels in such a timeline, since there are clear violations of canon throughout them. Heck, there are enough problems within each show's continuity to cause problems as it is.

There are very few specific date markers sprinkled throughout the programs. The Halloween episodes are good markers. We have the time and date stamp on "Converstions With Dead People". In "Dead End", the date for the meeting at Wolfram & Hart to announce who gets the promotion can be found when Lindsey breaks into Nathan Reed's computer. And don't forget "Amends" and Christmas. Other than those examples off the top of my head, there's not much to go on.

For some reason, all of this interests me. It's like a puzzle that needs solving. Considering the show's lack of a bible and the writers' notorious failings in math, this may be an exercise in futility, but I enjoy it.


tina f. - Oct 29, 2003 5:24:19 am PST #1173 of 10000

How much did that SFX special cost?

$9.95 at Borders (never would have spent that if I hadn't had a gift cert.) In the mag. rack next to the sci-fi cult fan stuff.

I don't see what the worth of including the comics and the novels in such a timeline, since there are clear violations of canon throughout them.

What's nice is that everything is labelled as far as where it came from, so if one wanted to, one could take a medium point Sharpie and cross out all the entries that pertain to book and non-Joss/ME writer written comics. When one does that, one should be sure to let said marks dry as one does not want smudges all over their shiny new magazine thing.

A lot of the info for the timeline comes from the Tales of the Slayers series. Which I think of as "show" canon since it is written by the ME writing staff for the most part.

For some reason, all of this interests me. It's like a puzzle that needs solving.

Same here. You should get it. It's got a pretty well-written ranked episode guide to boot. But the interviews, especially the one w/Joss, are all BTDT. Not a lot to learn from them.

Oh and since it's a British pub there is endless fun in going "hey! that's not how you spell 'realize'!"


smonster - Oct 31, 2003 9:53:08 am PST #1174 of 10000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

tina, did you buy this recently? we thought we had missed it. (we= amyth +me)


tina f. - Oct 31, 2003 9:54:35 am PST #1175 of 10000

smonster - I bought it Monday of this week and there were a bunch. If you can't find it - lemme know and I can pick one up for you if they still have it.


Hayden - Oct 31, 2003 11:29:30 am PST #1176 of 10000
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Hey, smonster, please pass my hi to Amyth!


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 31, 2003 12:51:03 pm PST #1177 of 10000
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

How weird is it that both the most recent Buffy comic and this week's Angel have scenes where other folks run across Angel nekkid and saluting? Particularly odd for a comic book, which I can't recall ever being quite that blasé about such a topic before. Not, mind you, that I'm complaining if this is a sign of a developing trend...


smonster - Oct 31, 2003 3:04:47 pm PST #1178 of 10000
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

thanks, tina!

hayden, will do.