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Astarte - Oct 23, 2003 9:33:31 pm PDT #5652 of 10000
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

I talked to another friend who runs a BB- with much higher storage needs and traffic than we have. She's of the opinion that Steve's offer is a lot higher than we should be able to find elsewhere.

She suggest checking out:

dinix.com

There's no restrictions on the use of MySQL, iirc. Even though these are 'virtual' server accounts, you get almost all the functionality of a dedicated server at a fraction of the cost. And from whatever account level they start off at, there's a variety of options to upgrade to later as needed (including a number of dedicated options, if they think they need that).

...with Dinix's highest level virtual plan, they could get 4GB storage (even that is still *way* more than enough) with 100GB of monthly bandwidth... for $90,

FWIW, I really think we can do better than $200 a month, and still get good responsive service. The only choices are not HostageRockect and IH.

Back to lurking now.


§ ita § - Oct 23, 2003 9:37:27 pm PDT #5653 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

This is diverging from the point, but I wanted to make a technical troubleshooting point:

Tom, Rob -- I tried on our test server to do the show processlist -- not only could I get into the commandline mysql twice, show processlist showed both command line logins and my browser firing off queries.


Astarte - Oct 23, 2003 9:39:14 pm PDT #5654 of 10000
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

And the deadline unfortunately is not irrelevent. Generally if given a deadline that does not allow time to make a good decision, the best decision to make is "no". This has nothing to do with blame.

Sorry, I should have said arguing about the deadline is immaterial.


Typo Boy - Oct 23, 2003 9:40:36 pm PDT #5655 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

> The $99/month offering from iStrata is a dedicated machine.

Is this what you were calling a virtual server, Typo Boy?

No, there was another offer that was a virtual server.

And my problem with the new offer is:

The server would be entirely FanGeek's and we are willing to play around with the configuration and settings to see if that helps your situation. Whether or not it does, the site would stay up and there won't be any further error message issues. Also, being that it would be our server, I can reboot it any time we need that to happen.

It does not specify how much they would play with the configuration - certainly not unlimited amounts. The thing about a real dedicated server is we could play with the settings as much as we wanted. Even with a dedicated server - it seems like we could play with most of the settings - ability to tweak stuff we just could not tweak with the current offer. My problem with the current offer is we still have to rely on the host to tweak some things. This could end up with us being that pita customer again.


§ ita § - Oct 23, 2003 9:42:04 pm PDT #5656 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It does not specify how much they would play with the configuration - certainly not unlimited amounts.

By they -- you mean Kristen. It's probably simplest to ask.


Astarte - Oct 23, 2003 9:44:02 pm PDT #5657 of 10000
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.

Additional re the Dinix plans from my friend:

I just called Dinix at 1:30am. And got a live person on the second ring.

The guy confirmed that there is no pre-set limit on the simultaneous MySQL database transactions/connections


Typo Boy - Oct 23, 2003 9:48:28 pm PDT #5658 of 10000
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Ah, I wasn't sure what was Kristen and what was Steve. "They" seemed suitably vagure.

Look, for various reasons I'm tired most of the time right now, so I sometimes put things clumsily, and misunderstand some stuff that was clear to everyone else. But I honestly think some of my points may prove useful, and if anything I say seems hostile I hope you will understand that it is not - it is simply poor phrasing that in trying to help solve the problem.


Liese S. - Oct 23, 2003 9:49:02 pm PDT #5659 of 10000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Tom, Rob -- I tried on our test server to do the show processlist -- not only could I get into the commandline mysql twice, show processlist showed both command line logins and my browser firing off queries.

This is very interesting. And we have been unable to fail on the test server also, correct?


Liese S. - Oct 23, 2003 9:50:46 pm PDT #5660 of 10000
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Also, Typo Boy, I read you as also speaking reasonably. By nature we have divergent opinions throughout the board. Yours sounds fine, and not accusatory, to me.


Kristen - Oct 24, 2003 12:08:09 am PDT #5661 of 10000

It does not specify how much they would play with the configuration - certainly not unlimited amounts.

I had been pretty much willing to test out any and all server configuration options. The server would be mine to do with as I please. IH would have no say though Steven would be on hand to make suggestions if I wanted to hear them.

The thing about a real dedicated server is we could play with the settings as much as we wanted.

See, my plan was pretty much to give you a real dedicated server without making you pay for the whole thing.

At this point, can I just take the offer off the table and let you guys make some other arrangements? I'm tired and feeling kind of beat up here. I think it's clear that the will of the board or the geekies or whatever you want to call them is that we're too expensive. I understand that. Unfortunately, I can't afford to give you guys any more price breaks at this point. If I could, I would. But, you know, I need to be able to buy groceries every week.

So can we all just move on to talking about where to move to, please?