The IDs don't have to be contiguous, John -- there's no quote ID 1, for instance. That's why I want the selection to be more tied to the DB.

And I think we have to keep the Phoenix code consistent -- as OO as we can make it.

The data's been normalised since the get go. The problem began about three weeks ago, IIRC. There had been no changes to data, table structure, or code at that time. I didn't fix the quote until afterwards.

The problem began about three weeks ago, IIRC.

I think that's when somebody said something about it. I'd noticed it earlier but... uhhhh... forgot to say anything.

Actually, when it was mentionedby Shawn, someone else said it had been going on for two weeks beforehand. No one else countered her estimation. That's all I have to go by, but it's certainly before the editing and after the normalisation, since it's been normalised since episode numbers were displayed.

The IDs don't have to be contiguous, John -- there's no quote ID 1, for instance.

OK, didn't know that.

we have to keep the Phoenix code consistent -- as OO as we can make it

Fair enough. I think I should read a good book about Object-Oriented PHP, or Object-oriented anything, really, try to get my head around it.

The problem began about three weeks ago, IIRC. There had been no changes to data, table structure, or code at that time. I didn't fix the quote until afterwards.

How weird.

The thing that strikes me is that it's the shortest of all possible quotes, isn't it? I wonder if that has anything to do with it? Short quote, short charactername, short title.

Or, another idea, maybe the server has some kind of caching thing going on where the same request gets cached, and, despite the fact it has "random" in it, it is in some sense the same request for a quote every time?

Yet another thought -- why don't we delete that quote from the DB and see what happens?

How often are people getting it? I'm about one in ten ... which doesn't lend itself to the caching explanation.

I can certainly delete it.

I can certainly delete it.

I'd be interested to see if another one took it's place.

How long is it:

it's all about the coat. Host 'Judgement'
12345678901234567890123456789012345678901

it's 41 chars long.

If we delete it and another very short one starts to show up a lot, then there's a clue, maybe.

And, it's not like we don't all know that quote off by heart by now. It won't get forgotten...

Edited because 31 and 41 aren't the same thing.

And we can always re-add it. I'm curious to see what happens as well.

I've flipped the approved switch to "N", so it should no longer show up.

A quick test brings up a lot of "We die horribly and painfully, you go to hell and I spend eternity in the arms of baby Jesus. Gunn, 'There's No Place Like Plrtz Glrb'"

I just got that one on 4/7 refreshes.

[edit: And, FWIW, every time Read New has sent me to the Message Center in the past few minutes has given me that Gunn quote. Don't know if that's relevant, or just coincidence.