And now my boy's in love. All hearts and flowers. But, doesn't it freak you out that she used to change your diapers? I mean, when you think about it, the first woman you boned is the closest thing you've ever had to a mother. Doing your mom and trying to kill your dad. Hm. There should be a play.

Angelus ,'Damage'


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Jon B. - Jan 01, 2003 9:24:15 pm PST #2517 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

The problem began about three weeks ago, IIRC.

I think that's when somebody said something about it. I'd noticed it earlier but... uhhhh... forgot to say anything.


§ ita § - Jan 01, 2003 9:26:50 pm PST #2518 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Actually, when it was mentionedby Shawn, someone else said it had been going on for two weeks beforehand. No one else countered her estimation. That's all I have to go by, but it's certainly before the editing and after the normalisation, since it's been normalised since episode numbers were displayed.


John H - Jan 01, 2003 9:27:43 pm PST #2519 of 10000

The IDs don't have to be contiguous, John -- there's no quote ID 1, for instance.

OK, didn't know that.

we have to keep the Phoenix code consistent -- as OO as we can make it

Fair enough. I think I should read a good book about Object-Oriented PHP, or Object-oriented anything, really, try to get my head around it.

The problem began about three weeks ago, IIRC. There had been no changes to data, table structure, or code at that time. I didn't fix the quote until afterwards.

How weird.

The thing that strikes me is that it's the shortest of all possible quotes, isn't it? I wonder if that has anything to do with it? Short quote, short charactername, short title.

Or, another idea, maybe the server has some kind of caching thing going on where the same request gets cached, and, despite the fact it has "random" in it, it is in some sense the same request for a quote every time?

Yet another thought -- why don't we delete that quote from the DB and see what happens?


§ ita § - Jan 01, 2003 9:29:36 pm PST #2520 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How often are people getting it? I'm about one in ten ... which doesn't lend itself to the caching explanation.

I can certainly delete it.


John H - Jan 01, 2003 9:41:36 pm PST #2521 of 10000

I can certainly delete it.

I'd be interested to see if another one took it's place.

How long is it:

it's all about the coat. Host 'Judgement'
12345678901234567890123456789012345678901

it's 41 chars long.

If we delete it and another very short one starts to show up a lot, then there's a clue, maybe.

And, it's not like we don't all know that quote off by heart by now. It won't get forgotten...

Edited because 31 and 41 aren't the same thing.


Jon B. - Jan 01, 2003 9:42:39 pm PST #2522 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

And we can always re-add it. I'm curious to see what happens as well.


§ ita § - Jan 01, 2003 9:43:50 pm PST #2523 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've flipped the approved switch to "N", so it should no longer show up.


Jon B. - Jan 01, 2003 9:45:36 pm PST #2524 of 10000
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

A quick test brings up a lot of "We die horribly and painfully, you go to hell and I spend eternity in the arms of baby Jesus. Gunn, 'There's No Place Like Plrtz Glrb'"


Jessica - Jan 01, 2003 9:46:27 pm PST #2525 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I just got that one on 4/7 refreshes.

[edit: And, FWIW, every time Read New has sent me to the Message Center in the past few minutes has given me that Gunn quote. Don't know if that's relevant, or just coincidence.


Betsy HP - Jan 01, 2003 9:52:26 pm PST #2526 of 10000
If I only had a brain...

And it's a Gunnathon here, too. Hmm. Plus two Mayors.