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John H - Dec 19, 2002 2:01:08 pm PST #2153 of 10000

Verdana is certainly a very well-designed font for online reading.

My feelings are that we shouldn't specify a font for body-text reading at all.

And that we shouldn't specify font sizes at all, except in relative terms, but I know that would cause havoc with the design.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 19, 2002 2:01:13 pm PST #2154 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

I'd probably put the whole thing into Papyrus.

Naturally. I might go for Times New Roman, which is familiar, but Verdana is fine.


Rob - Dec 19, 2002 2:01:24 pm PST #2155 of 10000

Secret font shout-out to Mac users.


Michele T. - Dec 19, 2002 2:01:32 pm PST #2156 of 10000
with a gleam in my eye, and an almost airtight alibi

Verdana was specifically designed for web readability. It also works better than most fonts in small sizes.


John H - Dec 19, 2002 2:03:55 pm PST #2157 of 10000

Rob, snerk. How I miss Chicago. Not.

To expand on my point before, whether or not the font we chose is a good one, to have chosen a font at all takes away from full usability: the philosophy that the user can set the fonts (and font sizes) they like to use in the browser preferences.


Rob - Dec 19, 2002 2:05:30 pm PST #2158 of 10000

How I miss Chicago. Not.

Well, this is the crappy, new Chicago. Not the cool, classic Chicago we use on the iPod. You can thank the Germans for that.


DXMachina - Dec 19, 2002 2:11:50 pm PST #2159 of 10000
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

What do you dislike about it, DX? Surely there's no such thing as 'too readable'.

Too big, and I find it unattractive.


John H - Dec 19, 2002 2:16:15 pm PST #2160 of 10000

this is the crappy, new Chicago

It does look a bit blobby. Chicago in nine-point type looks like a completely different font, I recall.

You can thank the Germans for that.

Er, which, the good or the bad?

I don't like the upper-case "V" in verdana. It always looks like backslash-forwardslash to me.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 19, 2002 2:16:35 pm PST #2161 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

We're deep into the realms of personal preferance here. (Oh, Lord, how porny did that sound when I typed it?) Given that, I think there's quite a case for the user-chooses argument.


Rob - Dec 19, 2002 2:19:43 pm PST #2162 of 10000

Er, which, the good or the bad?

The bad. Some ergonmics agency in Germany has rules about fonts that the old Chicago violated. One of them caused them to change the flat bottoms on the V's and W's. But Chicago was designed to have such flat bottoms. It's a travesty.

Of course, Chicago was a non-ideal choice for iPod, but that's another issue entirely.