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John H - Dec 19, 2002 2:03:55 pm PST #2157 of 10000

Rob, snerk. How I miss Chicago. Not.

To expand on my point before, whether or not the font we chose is a good one, to have chosen a font at all takes away from full usability: the philosophy that the user can set the fonts (and font sizes) they like to use in the browser preferences.

Rob - Dec 19, 2002 2:05:30 pm PST #2158 of 10000

How I miss Chicago. Not.

Well, this is the crappy, new Chicago. Not the cool, classic Chicago we use on the iPod. You can thank the Germans for that.

DXMachina - Dec 19, 2002 2:11:50 pm PST #2159 of 10000

You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

What do you dislike about it, DX? Surely there's no such thing as 'too readable'.

Too big, and I find it unattractive.

John H - Dec 19, 2002 2:16:15 pm PST #2160 of 10000

this is the crappy, new Chicago

It does look a bit blobby. Chicago in nine-point type looks like a completely different font, I recall.

You can thank the Germans for that.

Er, which, the good or the bad?

I don't like the upper-case "V" in verdana. It always looks like backslash-forwardslash to me.

Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 19, 2002 2:16:35 pm PST #2161 of 10000

I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

We're deep into the realms of personal preferance here. (Oh, Lord, how porny did that sound when I typed it?) Given that, I think there's quite a case for the user-chooses argument.

Rob - Dec 19, 2002 2:19:43 pm PST #2162 of 10000

Er, which, the good or the bad?

The bad. Some ergonmics agency in Germany has rules about fonts that the old Chicago violated. One of them caused them to change the flat bottoms on the V's and W's. But Chicago was designed to have such flat bottoms. It's a travesty.

Of course, Chicago was a non-ideal choice for iPod, but that's another issue entirely.

DXMachina - Dec 19, 2002 2:22:58 pm PST #2163 of 10000

You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

I don't like the upper-case "V" in verdana. It always looks like backslash-forwardslash to me.

For me, it's the "X" that bugs, among other things.

P.M. Marc - Dec 19, 2002 2:27:23 pm PST #2164 of 10000

So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I dislike the i, but that may be the Ple/Pie confusion.

DXMachina - Dec 19, 2002 2:29:25 pm PST #2165 of 10000

You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Ple, pie, it's all good.

Lyra Jane - Dec 19, 2002 2:30:50 pm PST #2166 of 10000

Up with the sun

Too big, and I find it unattractive.

I definitely agree that it's too big. It's not unattractive per se, though I think it's a little rough-looking. I think Ariel and Univers are more readable if you're going for a sans serif.

Anyhow, I like the idea of making the font user-definable -- either by defaulting to the user's browser preferences, or by adding the choice to the "set profile" page.

(And I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who's not in love with the font.)

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