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Jeff Mejia - Nov 14, 2002 3:05:01 pm PST #1465 of 10000
"Don't think of yourself as an organic pain collector racing towards oblivion." Dogbert to Dilbert

There are official codes for each Buffy episode that run in the credits. I'm not sure of the Angel episodes, but I would guess they have them, too.

I'll have to look at my tapes/DVDs when I get home to get actual samples and see if the code makes any sense.


Hil R. - Nov 14, 2002 3:08:17 pm PST #1466 of 10000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I don't see the value of knowing that ep 7.2 is also ep 120

I'd like to know. I don't know why, but it seems like an interesting thing to know.


John H - Nov 14, 2002 4:03:53 pm PST #1467 of 10000

I'd like to know. I don't know why, but it seems like an interesting thing to know.

That's exactly the point of any good database. Never leave out anything, because someone will want to do some research sometime which uses that data.

I studied the Poems of Thomas Hardy in sixth form, and I can tell you that one in sixteen of his poems are directly about death, and one in thirty-two are set in graveyards. I'm not sure what it means, apart from, you know, gloomy bastard, but that's exactly the kind of thing you don't know you want to know until you know it, and then it's cool.

Also, all databases should have a primary, and arbitrary, key. I've been having this discussion with the guy at work -- should we have a database of all people, and list the software they have, but people move, so maybe a database of computers and all the software on them? But computers get replaced, so maybe a database of IT-Assigned Workstation Numbers, but we just moved buildings and they all changed -- you have a key which is nothing but a key, and hang all other data off it.

Who's to say that, for instance, they didn't intend to show episode "1.3" of the Simpsons before episode "1.2", but ran into production problems and swapped them around? "1.3" is a record of when it was shown, but "(#7G02)" will always be its true number...


Dana - Nov 14, 2002 4:21:11 pm PST #1468 of 10000
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Who's to say that, for instance, they didn't intend to show episode "1.3" of the Simpsons before episode "1.2", but ran into production problems and swapped them around? "1.3" is a record of when it was shown, but "(#7G02)" will always be its true number...

That's actually often the case with TV shows, isn't it? Production order can be different from airing order.


John H - Nov 14, 2002 4:39:01 pm PST #1469 of 10000

But Buffy is so arc-y, they'd never do that.

Except those times they did do it, for "Earshot" and "Graduation Day". Only they didn't do it in Canada, so what is the first broadcast date of "Earshot"?

I think Jessica should volunteer to be the collector of the special ME ID numbers for all the eps she has on tape/disk.


Elena - Nov 14, 2002 5:38:10 pm PST #1470 of 10000
Thanks for all the fish.

Actually, they did show Earshot out of order in Canada. We got GDII on time, I think, but Earshot aired the following September, though I believe it was still before the States got it. Or I could be entirely wrong.


Java cat - Nov 14, 2002 5:44:07 pm PST #1471 of 10000
Not javachik

Jon, ita, I can log in if I fill in the 2 fiields and then click on "email an admin," I don't have to actually send a message to one of you. Yay.


John H - Nov 14, 2002 5:57:30 pm PST #1472 of 10000

Actually, they did show Earshot out of order in Canada.

Oops, my mistake.

We got it in the correct order in Australia, for the record.


Cindy - Nov 14, 2002 6:31:31 pm PST #1473 of 10000
Nobody

that's exactly the kind of thing you don't know you want to know until you know it, and then it's cool.

The kind of thing I don't know I want to know until I know it is my favorite thing to know. I'm not (only) trying to play with those words, either. It's true.


§ ita § - Nov 14, 2002 10:23:06 pm PST #1474 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's exactly the point of any good database. Never leave out anything

Um, actually, I'm pro leaving some stuff out, myself. Now, while I think that knowing which episode is 100 is interesting, it would pretty much have to be stored, since we'll have to hit the database to find that number out unless it's stored, what with the variable number of episodes in a season.

Question is, why are we storing it? There needs to be a line in the sand, because obsessives like us will make the widest tables in the world.

As for "what next?" -- how many coding volunteers do we have again?