You're not gonna jokey-rhyme your way out of this one.

Willow ,'Sleeper'


Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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Dana - May 01, 2007 12:00:43 pm PDT #698 of 5028
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Okay, just watched my tape.

That was AWESOME.

I have nothing more to say. Oh, except that Future!Hiro is kind of scary and depressing, but Future!Peter is a total hottie badass.


sumi - May 01, 2007 12:02:32 pm PDT #699 of 5028
Art Crawl!!!

I hope that we see more of Hana in the last three episodes.


Katie M - May 01, 2007 1:40:09 pm PDT #700 of 5028
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Okay, if they start explaining things that need explaining in the comic, I am going to be pissed. I have no patience for that kind of thing. (Er, not comics, but stories that I'm required to follow in multiple places.)

I've resisted Mohinder-crit up until now (well, except for when he failed to kill Sylar), but I may have yelled at my TV when he snipped the strings. That was just stupid.

It's in perfect character, though. I mean, this is Portentous Monologue guy. Of course he would cut the strings for the big dramatic moment. He's the cut-the-strings-for-the-big-dramatic-moment guy.


-t - May 01, 2007 1:53:41 pm PDT #701 of 5028
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Okay, if they start explaining things that need explaining in the comic, I am going to be pissed.

I think they've balanced it pretty well, so far. There's a little bit extra in the comic, so it's not a complete waste of time to read it; but there's nothing onscreen that makes no sense if you haven't read the comic, so it's not necessary to read it either.


esse - May 01, 2007 1:59:49 pm PDT #702 of 5028
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Man! This episode is like the textbook definition of HSQ. How incredibly awesome.

Someone upthread noted the resemblence of the show to Watchmen and Civil War--all I could think of throughout this episode of futureness was how much they were ripping off CW. I mean, I think it would be difficult to write any kind of superhero/comics related storyline without being affected by CW. But the similarities were so blatant.

Peter is HOTT and badass. And I totally didn't see the Sylar reveal coming, but man, how awesome was that? Poor Claire. The fight at the end was astonishingly cool, and I wish we could have seen more of it instead of just Mohinder struggling comically against the door. I bet Zach and Milo had a lot of fun with that scene.

The only thing about the Hiros I can bring up is a minor point--Future!H didn't know that the cheerleader had been saved, as the surprise he showed when Present!H said it was genuine. So, given that not much other than that had changed, and we can date F!H to five years in the future, shortly after he told Peter on the train to save the cheerleader, it's probable that he isn't aware of (obvious) changes in the timeline because the point F!H was at was basically the same as the one just prior to telling Peter.

God, McFly. What a headache you are!


-t - May 01, 2007 2:06:23 pm PDT #703 of 5028
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

he isn't aware of (obvious) changes in the timeline because the point F!H was at was basically the same as the one just prior to telling Peter

Oh, good point. But he was right about where to find Peter and his deal with HRG, so the changes couldn't have been too glaring.

I'm really curious about how the paintings fit with the different timelines - do the things Isaac painted always come true or can they be changed? Will Mohinder have to inject the Haitian with something 5 years down the road no matter what?


esse - May 01, 2007 2:24:12 pm PDT #704 of 5028
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

do the things Isaac painted always come true or can they be changed? Will Mohinder have to inject the Haitian with something 5 years down the road no matter what?

I think he paints futures possible. Maybe the most likely future possible. Though I'm trying to think of a painting of his that hasn't come true and drawing a blank.


esse - May 01, 2007 2:56:49 pm PDT #705 of 5028
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

One other note about the future--Sylar could have taken on Nathan's face at any point in the following five years. It doesn't necessarily have to occur that Nathan is killed in the explosion and Sylar takes his form then. He could have waited until Nathan was poised to run for/become the President and killed him at that point, which would have been a sensible move for Sylar (he doesn't have to campaign or make policy or actually *be* a senator; since he knpws [roughly, anyway] that Nathan is going to make it to the white house, he might as well let Nathan do all the work. It's not like it's easy being a Petrelli, either) and allowed a larger window of time (in the context of the future we saw in this episode) for him to meet and kill Candace. It's possible that the thought of taking over Nathan's life wouldn't occur to him until he took Candace's power, because there wouldn't be a way for him to do it effectively. Unless they introduce Candace to Sylar next week, which is of course another possibility. But it's interesting to think about the ways in which Sylar might have waited to overtake Nathan, rather than making everything rest on the bomb and its aftermath.


DCJensen - May 01, 2007 2:59:30 pm PDT #706 of 5028
All is well that ends in pizza.

It's possible that the thought of taking over Nathan's life wouldn't occur to him until he took Candace's power, because there wouldn't be a way for him to do it effectively.

Now with the painting power of precognition, he might be able to find out about Candace with a few dozen strokes of paint.


-t - May 01, 2007 3:06:51 pm PDT #707 of 5028
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, yeah, if I were him I'd wait to become Nathan until after he was elected president.