Okay, um, I'm lost. Uh, I'm angry, and I'm armed, so if you two have something that you need to work out --

Mal ,'War Stories'


Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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SailAweigh - Apr 30, 2007 5:09:56 pm PDT #597 of 5028
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

Wow, I set my TiVo to record two minutes over and this episode used it all up. I may have to add more time for the last episodes if they're going to keep doing this. I want my previews!


Jon B. - Apr 30, 2007 5:18:52 pm PDT #598 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

So is that Sylar-as-Nathan who we see Hiro stabbing in the comic?

It looked like Sylar-as-Sylar to me, but I like that twist if you're right (except for the Nathan being dead part).


chrismg - Apr 30, 2007 5:22:48 pm PDT #599 of 5028
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade

The only way this episode could have been better is if one of the Hiros had "randomly" referred to someone named Rachel.


Micole - Apr 30, 2007 5:23:51 pm PDT #600 of 5028
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

So, wait, if it was always Peter who blew up New York, it won't necessarily change anything if Hiro kills Sylar. Or it will change something, because Sylar won't become Nathan, but it might not change enough.


Jon B. - Apr 30, 2007 5:25:40 pm PDT #601 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

What did Future!Hiro give Ando at the end?


le nubian - Apr 30, 2007 5:26:17 pm PDT #602 of 5028
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Yeah, this is kinda messed up.

Sounds like Sylar needs to die AND you have to stop Peter from exploding.


Kalshane - Apr 30, 2007 5:31:04 pm PDT #603 of 5028
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

What did Future!Hiro give Ando at the end?

It looked like a 9th Wonders comicbook page. Well, it was also bloodstained, but I don't think the latter part was intentional.

I wonder at what point Sylar killed Nathan and took his place. Judging by Sylar and Peter's conversation, it was after the explosion in New York, so yeah, I'm not sure what killing Sylar really changes beyond some of President Petrelli's nastier policies. (Though the message has always been "Save the cheerleader, save the world" and not "Save New York." So maybe the Heroes do everything "right" and New York still blows up. Though I can't really see them going down that route.)

I was also sadly promoless. My DVR cut off right as the promo began.


SailAweigh - Apr 30, 2007 5:31:20 pm PDT #604 of 5028
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

So, wait, if it was always Peter who blew up New York, it won't necessarily change anything if Hiro kills Sylar.

It will if Peter went nuclear in response to Sylar, that it was the only way to kill him. But, if Hiro kills Sylar, then Peter never has to nuke Sylar/NYC.


Jessica - Apr 30, 2007 5:34:36 pm PDT #605 of 5028
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Eeee. Creepy Profit voice!

So. Damn. HOT. Mmmmmm, Profit.

So, wait, if it was always Peter who blew up New York, it won't necessarily change anything if Hiro kills Sylar. Or it will change something, because Sylar won't become Nathan, but it might not change enough.

Right. They have to stop both.


Nutty - Apr 30, 2007 5:44:54 pm PDT #606 of 5028
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

So, wait, if it was always Peter who blew up New York, it won't necessarily change anything if Hiro kills Sylar. Or it will change something, because Sylar won't become Nathan, but it might not change enough.

Wait, I think I have this: it's in the vision Peter had, where he's about to blow up and everybody is fleeing him, except for Nathan. He's walking up close, presumably to fly him away to the moon, and there's some line about their deep, abiding brotherly love.

If Sylar replaces Nathan before that point, well, clearly Sylar (a) does not give a shit about Peter and (b) would be very happy to be elected president on a wave of paranoia, as the paintings predict. So he (as Nathan) doesn't arrive to put Peter on the moon, so Peter blows up New York (clearly his blowupping is not a danger to himself) and Bob is everybody's uncle!

Post quod erat ipso factotum!!