Giles: Stop that, you two. Riley: He started it... Xander: He called me a bad name! I think it was bad; it might have been Latin.

'Selfless'


Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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Trudy Booth - Nov 17, 2009 1:23:17 pm PST #4841 of 5028
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

And a nuthouse in the fifties at that (I'm pretty sure they don't leave people all alone restrained in padded cells these days, but I could be wrong.)

Maybe he took Mohinder to a nuthouse in the fifties.


Una - Nov 17, 2009 6:04:23 pm PST #4842 of 5028
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.

Nikki/Jessica was (were?) in a padded cell for a while...


Kalshane - Nov 17, 2009 6:12:42 pm PST #4843 of 5028
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Yeah, I didn't enjoy that episode at all. So much blah, I don't even know where to begin. It wasn't bad, I just wasn't really interested in what was going on. And I'm with the WTF on throwing Mohinder into a padded cell.


§ ita § - Nov 17, 2009 6:21:49 pm PST #4844 of 5028
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'm glad at the theory (or rather the visual) of Mohinder being back, but damn if they didn't drag it out.


Kalshane - Nov 18, 2009 5:00:15 pm PST #4845 of 5028
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I think I realized my issue with the episode.

Main characters of focus: Samuel, Mohinder, Tracy, Nathan and Peter, with a dash of Hiro.

Characters I don't give two craps about: Samuel (and the rest of his Carny bretheren), Mohinder, Tracy

Plus they undid Matt's shining moment from last week. (Which the previews already spoiled, but still.)


sumi - Nov 19, 2009 4:21:56 am PST #4846 of 5028
Art Crawl!!!

Yeah, I wish they'd allowed Matt to be a hero.

Mohinder never learns.

I like the Nathan and Peter, the episode needed more HRG.


Wolfram - Nov 19, 2009 8:03:19 am PST #4847 of 5028
Visilurking

I'm okay with the Matt/Sylar exchange. They had to get Sylar out of Matt, and it had to be done against Matt's will. They played out tensions nicely as Sylar first threatened Matt with his family, and then with killing innocents and Matt went the hero route to try and commit suicide by cop.

Pete's got the healing to save Hiro, and he and Nathan get the tip from the Hatian in time to unravel the mystery then show up at Matt's bedside in time to save him, and give Sylar the out. I think they earned it.

What kills me is Pete giving up the healing ability to fly after Nathan, basically condemning Hiro (and multiple future accident victims) to death. So friggin' stupid.

I also echo all the above sentiments about Hiro and Mohinder - why he didn't just jump him forward 8 weeks is beyond me.


§ ita § - Nov 19, 2009 9:08:35 am PST #4848 of 5028
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

basically condemning Hiro (and multiple future accident victims) to death. So friggin' stupid.

But Peter can save people with other powers too. He wasn't very efficient with the healing power because it was taking so much out of him. Emma had to save the little girl because he couldn't do it. He was very efficient with the superspeed, perhaps moreso, just not in the hospital. Flight might serve the factor of getting him to accident sites faster, or he could just get something else.

If Hiro wanted Peter to heal him, he should have stayed put. He's a time traveller. He could go back to save Charlie from any point in the future. More reliably if he was healthy. My exasperation with his self-preservation instinct is now well-developed.


Wolfram - Nov 23, 2009 6:36:15 am PST #4849 of 5028
Visilurking

But Peter can save people with other powers too.

You're right. But the whole purpose of Peter's getting the healing power was to save Hiro, who always turns back up again. Now that heal-o-boy is dead, you'd think Peter would have held on to that power unless there was a compelling reason to give it up. Chasing Nathan, NSM.


§ ita § - Nov 23, 2009 6:58:54 am PST #4850 of 5028
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If Hiro doesn't prioritise his health, why should Peter rank it over his own family?

Can you tell I'm exasperated with Hiro's decision-making process? I don't think he deserves to be saved despite himself, not at the expense of others. He has to play along too.