You have the emotional maturity of a blueberry scone.

Giles ,'Touched'


Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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beekaytee - Apr 29, 2009 3:49:37 am PDT #4612 of 5028
Compassionately intolerant

I was struck by how Chuck's fight was ripped frame for frame from the Matrix. Which made me laugh way before the "I know Kung Fu" line.


Trudy Booth - Apr 29, 2009 4:40:40 am PDT #4613 of 5028
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I assumed the fight was behind the door so we couldn't keep track of Sylar.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 29, 2009 7:21:55 am PDT #4614 of 5028
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Remember the big final fight against Sylar in Season 1, where everyone took an individual turn against him like a football practice dummy while all the others stood around with their mouths open? Even if they hadn't run out of money before the big fight, that show's stunt coordinators aren't capable of putting on a good one.


victor infante - Apr 29, 2009 7:29:30 am PDT #4615 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I assumed the fight was behind the door so we couldn't keep track of Sylar.

It was a cop out, but I give them credit for cleverly hiding a weakness. Not much credit, but admitting they have a problem is the first step ...

Remember the big final fight against Sylar in Season 1, where everyone took an individual turn against him like a football practice dummy while all the others stood around with their mouths open? Even if they hadn't run out of money before the big fight, that show's stunt coordinators aren't capable of putting on a good one.

Exactly. I think, when they put the "Heroes" team together, they never brought in anyone who could put together a fight scene and special effects well, and it always ends up ... flat. Either one on one fights, or quick cuts where we don't fully see what's happening. (Take Peter and Hiro kicking ass in "Five Years Gone." Hot scene, but upon examination, we see very little of the actual fight.)

If they want the show to improve (and I think they do) they need to fix this.

It doubly annoyed because I liked the finale. But I found its strengths all in small things, which is good, but the big things need to hold up, too.


Polter-Cow - Apr 29, 2009 3:56:53 pm PDT #4616 of 5028
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Man, Fake Nathan Sylar is fucked-up. And very Dollhouse-y, I agree. I almost want to see the story. I wasn't as disappointed as le nubian (and I didn't mind the fight scene that we couldn't see because I assumed, like Trudy, that it was so we couldn't keep track of Sylar...even though they didn't really play that card anyway), but I could be comfortable walking away since they sort of Ended things so they could Begin them again. I guess I'll determine in the fall whether I really care enough.


§ ita § - Apr 29, 2009 4:11:48 pm PDT #4617 of 5028
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'll be back if only to see how much screentime Quinto will get vs Pasdar. If the conversion mostly took, I'd be pretty happy.

Given they couldn't even get rid of Larter (Iceman fans in the hizzouse!!1!), I'm meta-interested in how they deal with these two actors essentially competing for the same screentime.


victor infante - Apr 29, 2009 4:20:46 pm PDT #4618 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Iceman fans in the hizzouse!!1!

Did I call it or did I call it?

I'm meta-interested in how they deal with these two actors essentially competing for the same screentime.

Methinks ZQ is distracted by movie projects, and can't be around that much.

Also, on a tangential note, am I the only one who's ecstatic they didn't leap to Claire's magic blood to save Nathan? Seriously. We can pretend it never happened. I'll be fine with that. I'm not one of those people who feel a TV show should be forever bound by their earlier bad decisions.


§ ita § - Apr 29, 2009 4:24:18 pm PDT #4619 of 5028
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Did I call it or did I call it?

I'd have been disappointed had you not.

eta: Though I do recall an article saying she was most sincerely dead, which I hate HATE hate, just as I hated it in BSG. Lying to me is different from keeping me unspoiled--just in this case I chose to ignore them.

Methinks ZQ is distracted by movie projects, and can't be around that much.

Well, so far he doesn't have anything more recent than Star Trek on IMDB, but we know how that can be.


Jon B. - Apr 29, 2009 4:58:32 pm PDT #4620 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Though I do recall an article saying she was most sincerely dead, which I hate HATE hate, just as I hated it in BSG. Lying to me is different from keeping me unspoiled--just in this case I chose to ignore them.

I'm confused. The Larter at the very end had a different power from the dead Larters. She wasn't freezing things, she was changing herself to water and drowning people. I assumed she was the as-yet-unseen third(?) "sister".


§ ita § - Apr 29, 2009 5:17:54 pm PDT #4621 of 5028
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

She wasn't freezing things, she was changing herself to water

The last we saw of Larter she'd turned herself to ice. Which is too much like turning yourself to water for me to think it's a whole new sister, as opposed to new tricks of an old one.