Remember the big final fight against Sylar in Season 1, where everyone took an individual turn against him like a football practice dummy while all the others stood around with their mouths open? Even if they hadn't run out of money before the big fight, that show's stunt coordinators aren't capable of putting on a good one.
I mean, let's say you did kill us. Or didn't. There could be torture. Whatever. But somehow you found the goods. What would your cut be?
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Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes
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Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 29, 2009 7:21:55 am PDT #4614 of 5028
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victor infante - Apr 29, 2009 7:29:30 am PDT #4615 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
I assumed the fight was behind the door so we couldn't keep track of Sylar.
It was a cop out, but I give them credit for cleverly hiding a weakness. Not much credit, but admitting they have a problem is the first step ...
Remember the big final fight against Sylar in Season 1, where everyone took an individual turn against him like a football practice dummy while all the others stood around with their mouths open? Even if they hadn't run out of money before the big fight, that show's stunt coordinators aren't capable of putting on a good one.
Exactly. I think, when they put the "Heroes" team together, they never brought in anyone who could put together a fight scene and special effects well, and it always ends up ... flat. Either one on one fights, or quick cuts where we don't fully see what's happening. (Take Peter and Hiro kicking ass in "Five Years Gone." Hot scene, but upon examination, we see very little of the actual fight.)
If they want the show to improve (and I think they do) they need to fix this.
It doubly annoyed because I liked the finale. But I found its strengths all in small things, which is good, but the big things need to hold up, too.
Polter-Cow - Apr 29, 2009 3:56:53 pm PDT #4616 of 5028
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Man, Fake Nathan Sylar is fucked-up. And very Dollhouse-y, I agree. I almost want to see the story. I wasn't as disappointed as le nubian (and I didn't mind the fight scene that we couldn't see because I assumed, like Trudy, that it was so we couldn't keep track of Sylar...even though they didn't really play that card anyway), but I could be comfortable walking away since they sort of Ended things so they could Begin them again. I guess I'll determine in the fall whether I really care enough.
§ ita § - Apr 29, 2009 4:11:48 pm PDT #4617 of 5028
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'll be back if only to see how much screentime Quinto will get vs Pasdar. If the conversion mostly took, I'd be pretty happy.
Given they couldn't even get rid of Larter (Iceman fans in the hizzouse!!1!), I'm meta-interested in how they deal with these two actors essentially competing for the same screentime.
victor infante - Apr 29, 2009 4:20:46 pm PDT #4618 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.
Iceman fans in the hizzouse!!1!
Did I call it or did I call it?
I'm meta-interested in how they deal with these two actors essentially competing for the same screentime.
Methinks ZQ is distracted by movie projects, and can't be around that much.
Also, on a tangential note, am I the only one who's ecstatic they didn't leap to Claire's magic blood to save Nathan? Seriously. We can pretend it never happened. I'll be fine with that. I'm not one of those people who feel a TV show should be forever bound by their earlier bad decisions.
§ ita § - Apr 29, 2009 4:24:18 pm PDT #4619 of 5028
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Did I call it or did I call it?
I'd have been disappointed had you not.
eta: Though I do recall an article saying she was most sincerely dead, which I hate HATE hate, just as I hated it in BSG. Lying to me is different from keeping me unspoiled--just in this case I chose to ignore them.
Methinks ZQ is distracted by movie projects, and can't be around that much.
Well, so far he doesn't have anything more recent than Star Trek on IMDB, but we know how that can be.
Jon B. - Apr 29, 2009 4:58:32 pm PDT #4620 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
Though I do recall an article saying she was most sincerely dead, which I hate HATE hate, just as I hated it in BSG. Lying to me is different from keeping me unspoiled--just in this case I chose to ignore them.
I'm confused. The Larter at the very end had a different power from the dead Larters. She wasn't freezing things, she was changing herself to water and drowning people. I assumed she was the as-yet-unseen third(?) "sister".
§ ita § - Apr 29, 2009 5:17:54 pm PDT #4621 of 5028
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
She wasn't freezing things, she was changing herself to water
The last we saw of Larter she'd turned herself to ice. Which is too much like turning yourself to water for me to think it's a whole new sister, as opposed to new tricks of an old one.
Jessica - Apr 29, 2009 5:25:19 pm PDT #4622 of 5028
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
I assumed the same as ita. She was water the last time we saw her, and she's killing the agents who hunted her. Sister #3 has no reason to seek revenge that we know of.
sj - Apr 29, 2009 5:31:37 pm PDT #4623 of 5028
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
I think the Sylar!Nathan is going to be very interesting because Sylar has convinced himself that he is evil in his very nature, and that he just can't be good for very long. While Nathan always thinks he is on the side of righteousness, even when he is doing bad things. I'm interested to see which of these two natures will win out in the end. I think it would be interesting for Nathan to look in the mirror and see Sylar there instead when things begin to really unravel (and you know they will).
What ita said wrt Larter's character. It seemed very much like a character figuring out that there was another aspect to their ability than a whole new persona. Do we know who she was killing, or is that part of the mystery for next season? ETA: Nevermind Jessica's post just answered my question.