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Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes

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le nubian - Apr 28, 2009 9:07:21 am PDT #4583 of 5028

"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

if my next door neighbor thinks she is me, she still isn't me. Even if she knows some of the things I know.

What makes us us is what I referred to before: my core personality and how I would make decisions. How I would respond to the unknown.

I don't believe there is any superpower than can recreate the essence of who we are. My gut response to things would be different from my neighbors. She doesn't have my cognitive wiring, my experiences, my DNA, my knowledge.

BTW, if he has Nathan's memories, how does he not have the memory of Nathan dying?

Frankenbuddha - Apr 28, 2009 9:14:54 am PDT #4584 of 5028

"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

BTW, if he has Nathan's memories, how does he not have the memory of Nathan dying?

Matt can implant new thoughts as well as whatever he did with wiping Sylar's memory out (and transferring Nathan's?), so he could have over/rewritten the outcome of the fight with Sylar.

Laga - Apr 28, 2009 9:16:53 am PDT #4585 of 5028

You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Nathan had a conciousness and that died with him. No matter how perfectly Sylar can recreate Nathan, that conciousness can never be revived.

Vortex - Apr 28, 2009 9:18:43 am PDT #4586 of 5028

"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Is it bad that my thought is - whatever. Adrian Padsar's still on my TV.

Trudy Booth - Apr 28, 2009 9:54:07 am PDT #4587 of 5028

Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

If lovin' Adrian Pasdar is wrong...

Theodosia - Apr 28, 2009 10:19:10 am PDT #4588 of 5028

'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Sooner or later Nathan!Sylar will find out the hard way that he can't just fly, no matter whether Matt's mindfix holds up or not, and that's going to lead to questions.

I'm really sad that Nathan is dead, but I'm looking forward to what Pasdar can do with the role now.

Laura - Apr 28, 2009 10:39:50 am PDT #4589 of 5028

Our wings are not tired.

Is it bad that my thought is - whatever. Adrian Padsar's still on my TV.

Yes indeed, although I didn't always like the way Nathan was written. This was a very uneven season. I love so many of these people that I can only hope they do right by them the next time around.

victor infante - Apr 28, 2009 10:42:49 am PDT #4590 of 5028

To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Nathan had a conciousness and that died with him. No matter how perfectly Sylar can recreate Nathan, that conciousness can never be revived.

There's two assumptions here: 1.) that your (and, to be fair, my) assumption of what is consciousness jibes with the idea the fiction is going to explore. While there's been a sleight spiritual overtone to some of the story so far, we've seen little to nothing to indicate that there's any "afterlife" in the "Heroes" narrative. For all we know, on "Heroes," we are our memories, and that's that. That being said, I kinda doubt, but the idea needs to be put on the table until the story tells us something else. (And as it's heroes, it's possible that the truth is that we're neither our spirits, nor our memories, but rather we are, every one of us, a labradoodle named Daisy.)

And B.) This is, for all intents and purposes, a comic book. And if there's one thing a comic book can do, it's revive a dead consciousness. I'm placing my bets now on a Nathan ressurection by some means by the end of the season.

Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 28, 2009 10:46:04 am PDT #4591 of 5028

"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Isn't it possible that Sylar/Nathan will use his telekinetic abilities to fly? Parkman could have rigged him up so the impulse to use the one power triggers the other to approximate it...

le nubian - Apr 28, 2009 10:51:06 am PDT #4592 of 5028

"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Okay, count me among those (seems like a rare few here) who were disappointed in the finale and I was so disappointed in the season that I think it is unlikely I'll be back in the Fall.

IMO, the only possible good that can come from Sylar as Nathan is that there will be a scene next season where naked Sylar!Nathan sleeps in a cardboard box - which you know Sylar is likely to do given all his issues.

What a fabulous shout out that would be. I would watch that ep on Hulu, but otherwise...I want Pasdar to find another show with better material.

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