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Numero Cinco ,'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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victor infante - Apr 28, 2009 10:42:49 am PDT #4590 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Nathan had a conciousness and that died with him. No matter how perfectly Sylar can recreate Nathan, that conciousness can never be revived.

There's two assumptions here: 1.) that your (and, to be fair, my) assumption of what is consciousness jibes with the idea the fiction is going to explore. While there's been a sleight spiritual overtone to some of the story so far, we've seen little to nothing to indicate that there's any "afterlife" in the "Heroes" narrative. For all we know, on "Heroes," we are our memories, and that's that. That being said, I kinda doubt, but the idea needs to be put on the table until the story tells us something else. (And as it's heroes, it's possible that the truth is that we're neither our spirits, nor our memories, but rather we are, every one of us, a labradoodle named Daisy.)

And B.) This is, for all intents and purposes, a comic book. And if there's one thing a comic book can do, it's revive a dead consciousness. I'm placing my bets now on a Nathan ressurection by some means by the end of the season.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 28, 2009 10:46:04 am PDT #4591 of 5028
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Isn't it possible that Sylar/Nathan will use his telekinetic abilities to fly? Parkman could have rigged him up so the impulse to use the one power triggers the other to approximate it...


le nubian - Apr 28, 2009 10:51:06 am PDT #4592 of 5028
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Okay, count me among those (seems like a rare few here) who were disappointed in the finale and I was so disappointed in the season that I think it is unlikely I'll be back in the Fall.

IMO, the only possible good that can come from Sylar as Nathan is that there will be a scene next season where naked Sylar!Nathan sleeps in a cardboard box - which you know Sylar is likely to do given all his issues.

What a fabulous shout out that would be. I would watch that ep on Hulu, but otherwise...I want Pasdar to find another show with better material.


Laga - Apr 28, 2009 10:52:16 am PDT #4593 of 5028
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I think it's when his other powers start manifesting themselves under stress that he'll begin to suspect something weird is going on.

But yeah, I guess it's my understanding of conciousness. I believe that if someone slits my throat and I die I'm gone gone gone, no matter how well my memories are implanted in someone else, the me that was in my body won't wake up in another body- they will be someone else.


Vortex - Apr 28, 2009 10:55:37 am PDT #4594 of 5028
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Isn't it possible that Sylar/Nathan will use his telekinetic abilities to fly?

he doesn't have to, does he? Didn't he take Nathan's flying power?


-t - Apr 28, 2009 10:56:30 am PDT #4595 of 5028
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

the only possible good that can come from Sylar as Nathan is that there will be a scene next season where naked Sylar!Nathan sleeps in a cardboard box - which you know Sylar is likely to do given all his issues.

Oh, that would be wonderful.

I completely forgot about Nathan being Flying Man and Sylar not picking that power up anywhere! That's pretty funny.

we are, every one of us, a labradoodle named Daisy

Except Mr. Muggles, of course.

I think I am just less sure of what identity and consciousness are than, perhaps, most people. In which case, maybe the writers better not listen to what I want.


victor infante - Apr 28, 2009 11:37:47 am PDT #4596 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Isn't it possible that Sylar/Nathan will use his telekinetic abilities to fly? Parkman could have rigged him up so the impulse to use the one power triggers the other to approximate it...

I think that's precisely why they showed Sylar flying this episode.


Theodosia - Apr 28, 2009 11:50:16 am PDT #4597 of 5028
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

You know, though, I want to see the look on Nathan!Sylar's face when he jumps off a building and isn't able to fly....


Kevin - Apr 28, 2009 1:14:36 pm PDT #4598 of 5028
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Sylar had the ability to fly, though, because he does it in this episode I seem to recall.

I thought it was a proper car crash. A big fight scene only Claire gets to look at? Really? Is this a radio show?

I am guessing Zachary Quinto has left the show to do movies.


Laga - Apr 28, 2009 1:17:31 pm PDT #4599 of 5028
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

A big fight scene only Claire gets to look at? Really? Is this a radio show?

Yeah that was pretty cartoonish right there.