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victor infante - Feb 16, 2009 5:12:13 pm PST #4269 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

She knew that Abby was horrified by what was going on, and that Abby was going to shut the project down because she didn't believe. Why would she jeopardize her possible release by using her powers, especially when killing the guy wasn't going to get her anything? That's not Tracy's style.

That's not entirely fair. She was trapped like a rat, and kept under grueling conditions, with no reason to believe that Abby would be successful. And she's probably half out of her mind right now. She was running on fear and adrenaline, as the hunter guy knew she would.

In other news, Sylar Jr. can go, but I'm kinda fond of aquageek.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 16, 2009 5:25:47 pm PST #4270 of 5028
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

In other news, Sylar Jr. can go, but I'm kinda fond of aquageek.

I hope he portends another visit from Seth Green and friend. Cause that would be awesome.

Also, I agree with Victor. I'm not sure what Tracy thought she was going to do when she saw Abby, but when the guy got his arm free, she went on total fear (like with the reporter she killed).


Vortex - Feb 16, 2009 5:31:45 pm PST #4271 of 5028
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

with no reason to believe that Abby would be successful.

true, but there was no point in killing the analyst. She was trapped and she wasn't going to get out. She killed him out of spite and why do that in front of the only person who seemed to have any interest in having her released.


Monique - Feb 16, 2009 6:30:35 pm PST #4272 of 5028

I'm all about Asian representation on TV, but I really wish Hiro's storylines didn't all come off like X-Men Afterschool Specials. Can he grow up at some point, maybe?


Frankenbuddha - Feb 16, 2009 6:36:13 pm PST #4273 of 5028
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I laughed like a drain when Sylar turned on the radio to drown out his mini-me and "Psycho Killer" was playing.

Also, did NBC get a 2-for-1 T. Heads deal tonight, what with CHUCK using "Once in a Lifetime" as well?


Trudy Booth - Feb 16, 2009 6:45:08 pm PST #4274 of 5028
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Tracy has never had great control of her ability, has she? I'm not surprised it went off.

I'm disappointed Moira was ready to flush the Constitution but, hey, who isn't these days? Note: Scary people? You can stil try them.

I always love it when they make me root for Sylar. And I like that the kid is pretty twisted.


Kalshane - Feb 16, 2009 6:58:21 pm PST #4275 of 5028
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I thought the episode was okay. Aquageek looked familiar.

Sylar may be going soft, but the GF also pointed out that Sylar has no way of knowing the address the kid gave him was the right one. His lie detector only seems to work with spoken lies. He may want to keep the kid around as insurance. (Plus, I just realized now, the kid could also have spilled to the MRD where Sylar was going, so there's another reason for Sylar to keep him around. Or at least not trapped in the black van of "We're not a secret government organization, honest. Lots of people drive vans just like this one.")

I'm willing to chalk up Tracy icing the guy as a matter of fear and adrenaline, especially since the guy decked her pretty good. I can't imagine her thinking it was a good idea.

I was also saddened by new boss lady being so quick to throw the Constitution away. I think an ongoing storyline of her trying to get Nathan's group shutdown because of the Constituational violations while other people in the goverment manuevered to keep it going would have been far more interesting, and would have served the story the writers seem to be trying to tell much better.


victor infante - Feb 16, 2009 7:29:00 pm PST #4276 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

It's funny, because there's a direct correlation between:

Tracy has never had great control of her ability, has she? I'm not surprised it went off.

and:

I was also saddened by new boss lady being so quick to throw the Constitution away.

Fear makes people irrational, and can push people to make bad decisions. And to be honest, I find it disheartening when viewers demand that characters act rationally when they're clearly in irrational circumstances. Tracy reacted out of fear, in an almost mirror of the first use of her powers that we saw. Abby, likewise, acted in the same manner. I think it's easy to get jaded when you watch SF TV & movies and read comics, it's easy to forget that this shit would freak you the hell out if you saw it for real.

I'm curious to see if Abby recurs, because I think it's interesting that they've set up a mechanism to shut the operation down. And I'm also interested to see what happens when she hears the counterargument. Of course, that'll probably come from Peter of Claire, which will make the situation worse.

Ultimately, I think the operation's Nathan's to shut down, and 'm curious to see where they go with him.

In other thoughts, I'm wondering if Rebel is someone we've seen before. A couple thoughts spring to mind, Micah most prominently, as it's within his power and he'd ttotally go for the cool codename. Hannah Gittelman comes to mind, too, who's supposed to be some sort of ghost in the machine, now, according to the comics. And of course, in the comics, she was still talking online with Micah.

I like the Micah idea because it leaves a door open for Monica to come back. She'd be great in this story.


Vortex - Feb 16, 2009 7:49:31 pm PST #4277 of 5028
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I see what people are saying about Tracy reacting in fear, but she had such a satisfied look on her face when she froze the guy, and she deliberately shoved him against the wall, knowing that he would shatter. Plus, she was choking the guy with her chains, so she shouldn't have been surprised or reacted with fear when he tried to grab her arm after she released him. She grabbed his arm to freeze him.


Trudy Booth - Feb 16, 2009 8:07:58 pm PST #4278 of 5028
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Fear makes people irrational, and can push people to make bad decisions. And to be honest, I find it disheartening when viewers demand that characters act rationally when they're clearly in irrational circumstances. Tracy reacted out of fear, in an almost mirror of the first use of her powers that we saw. Abby, likewise, acted in the same manner. I think it's easy to get jaded when you watch SF TV & movies and read comics, it's easy to forget that this shit would freak you the hell out if you saw it for real.

Fair point.

I'm curious to see if Abby recurs, because I think it's interesting that they've set up a mechanism to shut the operation down.

It'll be interesting to see if we get an ongoing Constitutional discussion here. It would be AWESOME... but I bet it won't happen.