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Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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Trudy Booth - Feb 16, 2009 6:45:08 pm PST #4274 of 5028
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Tracy has never had great control of her ability, has she? I'm not surprised it went off.

I'm disappointed Moira was ready to flush the Constitution but, hey, who isn't these days? Note: Scary people? You can stil try them.

I always love it when they make me root for Sylar. And I like that the kid is pretty twisted.


Kalshane - Feb 16, 2009 6:58:21 pm PST #4275 of 5028
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I thought the episode was okay. Aquageek looked familiar.

Sylar may be going soft, but the GF also pointed out that Sylar has no way of knowing the address the kid gave him was the right one. His lie detector only seems to work with spoken lies. He may want to keep the kid around as insurance. (Plus, I just realized now, the kid could also have spilled to the MRD where Sylar was going, so there's another reason for Sylar to keep him around. Or at least not trapped in the black van of "We're not a secret government organization, honest. Lots of people drive vans just like this one.")

I'm willing to chalk up Tracy icing the guy as a matter of fear and adrenaline, especially since the guy decked her pretty good. I can't imagine her thinking it was a good idea.

I was also saddened by new boss lady being so quick to throw the Constitution away. I think an ongoing storyline of her trying to get Nathan's group shutdown because of the Constituational violations while other people in the goverment manuevered to keep it going would have been far more interesting, and would have served the story the writers seem to be trying to tell much better.


victor infante - Feb 16, 2009 7:29:00 pm PST #4276 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

It's funny, because there's a direct correlation between:

Tracy has never had great control of her ability, has she? I'm not surprised it went off.

and:

I was also saddened by new boss lady being so quick to throw the Constitution away.

Fear makes people irrational, and can push people to make bad decisions. And to be honest, I find it disheartening when viewers demand that characters act rationally when they're clearly in irrational circumstances. Tracy reacted out of fear, in an almost mirror of the first use of her powers that we saw. Abby, likewise, acted in the same manner. I think it's easy to get jaded when you watch SF TV & movies and read comics, it's easy to forget that this shit would freak you the hell out if you saw it for real.

I'm curious to see if Abby recurs, because I think it's interesting that they've set up a mechanism to shut the operation down. And I'm also interested to see what happens when she hears the counterargument. Of course, that'll probably come from Peter of Claire, which will make the situation worse.

Ultimately, I think the operation's Nathan's to shut down, and 'm curious to see where they go with him.

In other thoughts, I'm wondering if Rebel is someone we've seen before. A couple thoughts spring to mind, Micah most prominently, as it's within his power and he'd ttotally go for the cool codename. Hannah Gittelman comes to mind, too, who's supposed to be some sort of ghost in the machine, now, according to the comics. And of course, in the comics, she was still talking online with Micah.

I like the Micah idea because it leaves a door open for Monica to come back. She'd be great in this story.


Vortex - Feb 16, 2009 7:49:31 pm PST #4277 of 5028
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I see what people are saying about Tracy reacting in fear, but she had such a satisfied look on her face when she froze the guy, and she deliberately shoved him against the wall, knowing that he would shatter. Plus, she was choking the guy with her chains, so she shouldn't have been surprised or reacted with fear when he tried to grab her arm after she released him. She grabbed his arm to freeze him.


Trudy Booth - Feb 16, 2009 8:07:58 pm PST #4278 of 5028
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Fear makes people irrational, and can push people to make bad decisions. And to be honest, I find it disheartening when viewers demand that characters act rationally when they're clearly in irrational circumstances. Tracy reacted out of fear, in an almost mirror of the first use of her powers that we saw. Abby, likewise, acted in the same manner. I think it's easy to get jaded when you watch SF TV & movies and read comics, it's easy to forget that this shit would freak you the hell out if you saw it for real.

Fair point.

I'm curious to see if Abby recurs, because I think it's interesting that they've set up a mechanism to shut the operation down.

It'll be interesting to see if we get an ongoing Constitutional discussion here. It would be AWESOME... but I bet it won't happen.


Pix - Feb 16, 2009 9:42:06 pm PST #4279 of 5028
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I have to agree with Vortex. Tracy looked deliberate and angry when she iced the guy, not scared. It didn't sit right with me, either.

ION, my favorite moments from this episode stem from mini!Sylar, so he's growing on me. He forces Sylar to confront himself (almost literally given the kid's history and proclivities), which cracks me up. "OK, so* technically* I'm a serial killer" may have to be my new tagline, though "You really have to stop trying to be my friend, or I'm going to have to kill you" is right up there. And yeah, Psychokiller on the radio combined with the kid's snorfle and Sylar's sidelong glance actually did make me LOL. No, really.

I love the idea of Micah being Rebel! Very cool, and it would make sense that he's one of the only ones out there who could actually figure out what's going on and then get the word out.


Theodosia - Feb 17, 2009 2:36:20 am PST #4280 of 5028
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Agreed with Vortex that it just looked too deliberate. She really should have gone with, "this hand is loaded and I could... ice ... this guy if you don't back off."


le nubian - Feb 17, 2009 3:03:57 am PST #4281 of 5028
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I had a different interpretation of Tracy's actions - not that she reacted in fear - but that she now wants it exposed that there are "heroes." I think she deliberately wants their plight to be out in public consciousness and hiding who she was wasn't going to get her anywhere.

My second thought is that the writers are trying to do "character development" and show that circumstances of torture can turn a "good" person "bad."


Jessica - Feb 17, 2009 3:23:58 am PST #4282 of 5028
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I totally forgot yesterday was Monday! The three-day weekend threw me off.


Laura - Feb 17, 2009 5:42:47 am PST #4283 of 5028
Our wings are not tired.

Same here. Will have to watch later. The day just didn't have that Monday feel.