See, in my fantasy, when I'm kissing you... you're kissing me. It's okay. I can wait.

Oz ,'First Date'


Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 16, 2008 4:16:14 am PST #4139 of 5028
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Papatrelli did have Matt Parkman's mind-control powers via Peter, didn't he? Might explain Nathan's sudden turnabout. Or maybe he just has brain damage from the last time he was critically injured.

I'm handwaving that Daphne's power actually involves manipulating the flow of time in a limited fashion rather than just running fast (hence being able to break out of Hiro's time stops) and with a supercharge she was able to use it for full-on time travel.

Of course, even if not the writers are sort of being true to the source material, crackified though it may be. The Flash could do anything by running fast enough. I once read a spoof where the Wonder Twins turned into a goldfish in a puddle and the Flash ran really fast in circles around them, thereby returning them to their own dimension. It wasn't really much sillier than what he's done in the regular comics.


victor infante - Dec 16, 2008 4:18:59 am PST #4140 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I'm handwaving that Daphne's power actually involves manipulating the flow of time in a limited fashion rather than just running fast (hence being able to break out of Hiro's time stops) and with a supercharge she was able to use it for full-on time travel.

The "Heroes" version of the "Speed Force," which DC Comics came up to when they could no longer hide from the very, very bad physics of The Flash.


Theodosia - Dec 16, 2008 4:26:18 am PST #4141 of 5028
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Timey-wimey stuff makes my head hurt.


sumi - Dec 16, 2008 4:57:43 am PST #4142 of 5028
Art Crawl!!!

What Theodosia says. I have to just go with it w/o trying to understand it too much. Particularly on Heroes where I don't think that they creators have put all that much thought into it.

I also enjoyed moments of Hiro with his 10-year old self, and with Kaito. (I came up with a theory that Hiro is better when he's speaking in Japanese than when they have him speaking in English.)

I have to admit that I was kind of hoping that Sylar was Angela's son but not Arthur's. Oh well.

I thought that Fuller wasn't coming back until the third arc this season?


Vortex - Dec 16, 2008 6:05:58 am PST #4143 of 5028
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I see no reason why Meredeth has to be dead. Even out of control, she's immune to her own powers. I suspect, once the adrenaline burns itself out of her system, she'll simply hightail it out of there. (Superhero trope #1: No body, no death. Alas, this probably holds true for Sylar, too. Sigh.)

I think that we were supposed to think that she exploded, a la Ted. If she makes it out of the building collapse, she should be fine. but, as you say, if there's no body, they will be back.


Jessica - Dec 16, 2008 6:07:37 am PST #4144 of 5028
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I want the dead people to stay dead. Show has too many characters already.

I know the producers have made noise about how "Fugitives" will be COMPLETELY UNLIKE ANYTHING ELSE THE SHOW HAS SEEN, but isn't it just (bits of) S1 all over again with The Government standing in for The Company?


Vortex - Dec 16, 2008 6:10:58 am PST #4145 of 5028
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Noah always had to work under the radar, now they have the authority. Are they going to use the formula on the soldier's to create "sentinels"?


victor infante - Dec 16, 2008 6:51:54 am PST #4146 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I know the producers have made noise about how "Fugitives" will be COMPLETELY UNLIKE ANYTHING ELSE THE SHOW HAS SEEN, but isn't it just (bits of) S1 all over again with The Government standing in for The Company?

Well, it's better than another iteration of, to steal a joke from TWOP: "The world's about to end! We have to save Claire!"

I kid, but the biggest weakness on this show has been that it keeps trying to repeat the same story over and over again, and it bugs. If they can get back to real character stuff again, they might be able to get it back. If not, they're doomed. (Of course, dropping Loeb and the other writer and bringing back Fuller makes me hopeful.)


sumi - Dec 16, 2008 6:52:25 am PST #4147 of 5028
Art Crawl!!!

Jessica, I was thinking that this show is more "whatever has happened before will happen again" than BSG.


Wolfram - Dec 16, 2008 8:26:49 am PST #4148 of 5028
Visilurking

I am now watching this show with my Smallville Goggles. I have no expectations for character development or consistency, but hope for a decent superhero yarn. Last night delivered, mostly, and here's hoping the Fugitives chapter does the same.