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Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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Frankenbuddha - Dec 15, 2008 5:54:11 pm PST #4132 of 5028
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I watch for the occasional flashes of brilliance like last week's Hiro and his mother scenes. Or the entertaining bits like Kaito chasing Hiro around the kitchen with the sword, or big and little Hiro nodding at each other, or the Hiro, Ando, Daphne and Matt team.

Sylar's House o' Fun falls in that category too. But then they had to ruin it with the "running from the fireball" cliche.

And, yeah, exactly how many personality reversals have Nathan, Mohinder and Sylar (just to name the three most egregious) gone through this season? I'm hoping Bryan Fuller can make something coherent out of this mess.


victor infante - Dec 15, 2008 6:17:54 pm PST #4133 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

A few notes:

  • OK. I really shouldn't have been as amused by Hiro punching out Not!Nikki as I was.

  • I see no reason why Meredeth has to be dead. Even out of control, she's immune to her own powers. I suspect, once the adrenaline burns itself out of her system, she'll simply hightail it out of there. (Superhero trope #1: No body, no death. Alas, this probably holds true for Sylar, too. Sigh.)

  • As annoying as most of this episode was, the team of Matt, Daphne, Hiro and Ando was pretty neat to watch. And I've seen much complaining about Daphne being able to time travel in two directions, which I admit is bad science, but y'know, if Barry Allen could do it, I'm OK with it.

  • "Fugitives," despite being more of an X-Men ripoff than usual, has some potential: Instead of "It's the end of the world as we know it," it has the potential to be an actual character-based story again. Of course, as its the arc that Bryan Fuller returns for, I'm a bit heartened.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 15, 2008 6:48:43 pm PST #4134 of 5028
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

And, yeah, exactly how many personality reversals have Nathan, Mohinder and Sylar (just to name the three most egregious) gone through this season?

At least Peter will always have Stupid.

Sylar's body was in that building when Meredith went all Drew Barrymore, right? If he's currently dead/unsconscious, unable to regenerate, and gets caught in a thousand degree inferno, there shouldn't be enough left of him to grow back from when the fire burns out.


§ ita § - Dec 15, 2008 8:36:07 pm PST #4135 of 5028
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I see no reason why Meredeth has to be dead. Even out of control, she's immune to her own powers. I suspect, once the adrenaline burns itself out of her system, she'll simply hightail it out of there. (Superhero trope #1: No body, no death. Alas, this probably holds true for Sylar, too. Sigh.)

I think someone said something about the building collapsing. That'd do her. Of course the collapse will probably knock the shard out of Sylar's brain pan, and he'll be back in February.


Pix - Dec 15, 2008 8:50:39 pm PST #4136 of 5028
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie

I watch for the occasional flashes of brilliance like last week's Hiro and his mother scenes. Or the entertaining bits like Kaito chasing Hiro around the kitchen with the sword, or big and little Hiro nodding at each other, or the Hiro, Ando, Daphne and Matt team.

This. Also, Hiro saying he was sorry, bowing, and punching Not!Nikki in the face made both Drew and me laugh our asses off.

And, yeah, exactly how many personality reversals have Nathan, Mohinder and Sylar (just to name the three most egregious) gone through this season?

So very much this. I could have bought a reversal from good to bad over more time, but it just happened too fast during this arc to be believable. And yeah, not sure if I'm buying the Nathan-suddenly-buying-into-Daddy's-plan thing. Again, with a little more time...maybe. But going from "Dad is bad! Let's find the Haitian!" to "Dad was right! Let's save the world by making lots of superheroes!" to "Dad is dead! Let's lock 'em all up and leave 'em to die!" over the course of three episodes was a bit much for me.

At least Peter will always have Stupid.

BWAH! Matt, FTW.

"Fugitives," despite being more of an X-Men ripoff than usual, has some potential: Instead of "It's the end of the world as we know it," it has the potential to be an actual character-based story again. Of course, as its the arc that Bryan Fuller returns for, I'm a bit heartened.

Yes, this. I had the same "Um, X-Men much?" initial reaction and then decided it was a much better arc then whatever the heck this one was supposed to be about.

I think someone said something about the building collapsing. That'd do her. Of course the collapse will probably knock the shard out of Sylar's brain pan, and he'll be back in February.

Yeah, this. I doubt Sylar is really most sincerely dead. And though I was sick to death of him by the end of this arc, I like him when they play with his "good" side. Just please God give us another villain who isn't Sylar or Arthur Petrelli for the next volume. Oh, and please don't bring Maya back, kthnxbye.

I will say this. Despite the sometimes schizophrenic shifts in personality, I do like the basic premise of heroes and villains not being clearly defined and shifting from one side to the other. I like it when the writers are able to believably change my perspective about a character or scene. Despite all its flaws, I felt like the writing did get better than from early episodes this season, and I'm hopeful Bryan Fuller will provide a little more guidance to get them back on a more coherent track.


Frankenbuddha - Dec 16, 2008 3:11:03 am PST #4137 of 5028
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

When all is said and done, I did like this season more than last.


Jessica - Dec 16, 2008 3:36:56 am PST #4138 of 5028
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I was tearing my hair out over the Daphne-time-travel thing. Even if Einstein had said that you could go back in time by running really fast, he definitely did not say that if you could ran even faster you would fast-forward in time to get back to where you started! HMOG SHOW! STOP HURTING MY BRAIN!

The bigass silver lining to Nathan's personality transplant is that it means Adrian Pasdar gets to play Big Evil Corporate Guy again, which makes my inner still-bitter Profit fan squee.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 16, 2008 4:16:14 am PST #4139 of 5028
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Papatrelli did have Matt Parkman's mind-control powers via Peter, didn't he? Might explain Nathan's sudden turnabout. Or maybe he just has brain damage from the last time he was critically injured.

I'm handwaving that Daphne's power actually involves manipulating the flow of time in a limited fashion rather than just running fast (hence being able to break out of Hiro's time stops) and with a supercharge she was able to use it for full-on time travel.

Of course, even if not the writers are sort of being true to the source material, crackified though it may be. The Flash could do anything by running fast enough. I once read a spoof where the Wonder Twins turned into a goldfish in a puddle and the Flash ran really fast in circles around them, thereby returning them to their own dimension. It wasn't really much sillier than what he's done in the regular comics.


victor infante - Dec 16, 2008 4:18:59 am PST #4140 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I'm handwaving that Daphne's power actually involves manipulating the flow of time in a limited fashion rather than just running fast (hence being able to break out of Hiro's time stops) and with a supercharge she was able to use it for full-on time travel.

The "Heroes" version of the "Speed Force," which DC Comics came up to when they could no longer hide from the very, very bad physics of The Flash.


Theodosia - Dec 16, 2008 4:26:18 am PST #4141 of 5028
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Timey-wimey stuff makes my head hurt.