It's my estimation that... every man ever got a statue made of him, was one kind of sumbitch or another.

Mal ,'Jaynestown'


Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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esse - Mar 13, 2007 2:32:40 pm PDT #230 of 5028
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Jack Coleman (HRG): My character was the only one that didn’t warrant a multi-layered audition. I had a one page audition for a guest spot.

Holy crap, this is incredible. I mean, think about it--one-page audition, minor character, basically "the creepy guy" + "the dad." Could have been nothing more than a stand-in for Claire's own arc. Instead, we get the complexity and craft that was "Company Man." That's some damn acting chops, right there.


Theodosia - Mar 13, 2007 3:18:05 pm PDT #231 of 5028
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

It appears one good lesson that the producers took from Lost was being very organic about developing their characters from a selection of interesting actors, not to mention the varied ethnic and racial casting.


Jon B. - Mar 13, 2007 3:33:13 pm PDT #232 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Yeah, 'cause didn't Lost do the same thing with Jack (who was originally going to die in the pilot)?


Polter-Cow - Mar 13, 2007 4:16:40 pm PDT #233 of 5028
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, but don't most people hate Jack?

I know they created the part of Hurley just because they liked Jorge Garcia so much. Or at least heavily reworked the character to gear it to him.


sumi - Mar 13, 2007 4:38:14 pm PDT #234 of 5028
Art Crawl!!!

I don't think most people hated Jack at the beginning.


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 14, 2007 7:06:41 am PDT #235 of 5028
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I thought he was a somewhat unlikeable character that was very enjoyable to watch back when I was a viewer.


sumi - Mar 14, 2007 7:19:58 am PDT #236 of 5028
Art Crawl!!!

Right. But he wasn't hated at first. I think that by insisting that the show was Jack's show -- Lost made people hate him. (I still don't hate him, as such, but episodes with less Jack tend to be better episodes.)


Theodosia - Mar 14, 2007 8:01:57 am PDT #237 of 5028
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I'm in sumi's corner, as nearly always. I can't fault the actor or the way he's acting, they're just not using the character well. Putting all three of Sawyer/Kate/Jack on separate plots and keeping them away from each other for extended periods will keep me watching for a while yet.


victor infante - Mar 14, 2007 11:30:32 am PDT #238 of 5028
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Nielsen update: "Heroes" was tenth overall for the week, even with the top three slots being filled by "American Idol."

I don't know what to do with myself when a show I like isn't in constant danger of cancellation.


Polter-Cow - Mar 14, 2007 11:32:45 am PDT #239 of 5028
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I know the feeling, Victor. It's weird. It's been years, I think. At least with a show I loved this much. Lost was close with the liking-but-not-in-danger. But VM has worn me out.

And, honestly, it wasn't until recently that I even considered cancellation. I didn't use to follow ratings.