Giles: Stop that, you two. Riley: He started it... Xander: He called me a bad name! I think it was bad; it might have been Latin.

'Selfless'


Heroes 1: We Could Be Heroes  

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Jon B. - May 15, 2007 5:28:32 pm PDT #1093 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

you mean in 5 Years Later? it couldn't have been Sylar, he didn't get Claire's powers until after he turned into Nathan.

OK, one more time. The "original future" is the one that Future!Hiro experienced. In that future, Sylar did kill Claire at Homecoming. By warning Peter, Future!Hiro prevented this "original future" from happening. But in 5 Years Later we learned that this change wasn't enough. NYC still went boom, but it was Peter who did it instead of Sylar (even though Sylar was blamed for it). Now that Present!Hiro has seen that "second future", he can hopefully change things more so that he kills Sylar and prevents Peter from exploding.


sumi - May 15, 2007 5:29:29 pm PDT #1094 of 5028
Art Crawl!!!

Yes, he was staying in a kennel after the explosion. Although, really, if Mrs. Bennett were an actual dog-show person she would have found a hotel that allowed pets.


Vortex - May 15, 2007 6:37:33 pm PDT #1095 of 5028
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

But in 5 Years Later we learned that this change wasn't enough.

but, Claire was still alive, wasn't she? with brown hair?


aurelia - May 15, 2007 6:54:57 pm PDT #1096 of 5028
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

What we saw in 5 Years Later was the future after Claire was saved. Future!Hiro experienced the timeline in which she wasn't (hence the going back in time to tell Peter to save her).


sumi - May 15, 2007 7:02:11 pm PDT #1097 of 5028
Art Crawl!!!

The season 1 dvd set info now with artwork.


kat perez - May 15, 2007 7:08:08 pm PDT #1098 of 5028
"We have trust issues." Mylar

So, let's see. The Original Flavor timeline is the one in which Sylar killed Claire and then blew up New York himself. When Future!Hiro meets Peter on the subway, that's the future he is trying to alter with his "Save the Cheerleader, save the world." In the 5 Years Later future, Peter managed to save Claire and pick up her healing powers. He was also the one who blew up New York, but Nathan lied and covered it up saying that Sylar had done it. Some time later, Sylar, after meeting and killing Candace, killed Nathan and began impersonating him. When Present!Hiro met Future!Hiro in the Five Years Later future, FH didn't know that Peter was the one who blew up New York. He thought he had been a total failure, but he hadn't. He did manage to save Claire, but he didn't stop the city from blowing up. So now Present!Hiro is back in the present trying to get everything right and stop New York from going boom. The problem I see with this is that Sylar isn't actually the one who blows up NYC in the Five Years Later Future. So, it seems like Hiro could kill Sylar and still have NYC blow up. New future because Sylar won't be around to kill Nathan and commit hero-cide, but sucks to be a New Yorker all the same.

So confusing. Time travel makes my head hurt-y.


Kristen - May 15, 2007 7:08:52 pm PDT #1099 of 5028

I might need to finally commit to an HD-DVD player now. I really want these DVDs in HD.


Polter-Cow - May 15, 2007 8:15:11 pm PDT #1100 of 5028
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Candice. We saw it on the screen.

Sorry, it's a thing. It's the new Wiedman!


Stephanie - May 15, 2007 11:38:39 pm PDT #1101 of 5028
Trust my rage

In the 5 Years Later future, Peter managed to save Claire and pick up her healing powers. He was also the one who blew up New York

So Peter survived his own explosion? I think I remember that now, although that's the part that was confusing me last night. It's so hard for me to remember how this show works. I really should stop trying and just go with the flow.


Jon B. - May 16, 2007 1:37:25 am PDT #1102 of 5028
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

The problem I see with this is that Sylar isn't actually the one who blows up NYC in the Five Years Later Future. So, it seems like Hiro could kill Sylar and still have NYC blow up. New future because Sylar won't be around to kill Nathan and commit hero-cide, but sucks to be a New Yorker all the same.

True, but I'm thinking that Hiro telling Nathan how the future was bad and that he was a villain might have an effect on what Nathan does. Perhaps, in the 5 Years Later future, Nathan had a chance to stop Peter, but didn't. Now that he's heard Hiro's warning, he might act differently.

So Peter survived his own explosion?

Yes, In the "original future", Sylar survived his own explosion because he'd taken Claire's power. In the 5 Years Later future, Peter survived his own explosion because he now has Claire's power.