Wesley: All right. I'm going to let you all in on something you may have trouble comprehending. I assure you however-- Gunn: Vampires are real. Wesley: I was telling!

'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


Natter Five-O: Book 'Em, Danno.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Connie Neil - Feb 22, 2007 9:43:49 am PST #2920 of 10001
brillig

I kind of like this picture of the post-Mastiff destruction.

Someone needs to make one of those "I'm in ur hous, eatin ur hous" kinds of captions.


Daisy Jane - Feb 22, 2007 9:44:22 am PST #2921 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Weirdly aggravating exchange with a customer:

I have that exchange at least 3 or 4 times a day. I think that people don't have in their heads what they want, and are kinda waiting for us to guess, so they fill in that empty space where they should be relating what exactly in the hell it is they need with overly polite small talk.

It wastes my time.

" Hi Daisy how are you? Good. Good. Good. Y'all busy there today?" I mean it's this whole chit chat thing with someone who hasn't even told me his name yet, or said anything that would indicate a reason for the call or why he's being so familiar with me and OH MY GOD GET TO THE FUCKING POINT ALREADY!


bon bon - Feb 22, 2007 9:47:30 am PST #2922 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

I don't consider the admission embarassing myself. Difficult to make, perhaps, but not embarassing. This may be the result of coming to know people who say simply "I can't take that class. I have a meeting." And it's just that. They have a problem, they have meetings. End of drama.

Well, it's not true for everyone, and your perception is biased when you really can't know for sure who is too embarrassed to talk about it. I know I failed to mention that my dad was in rehab last year to everyone, with the exception of Bob, and we didn't talk about it either. It really had nothing to do with drama.

He made fun of his rehab roommate in his spiel. Britney's out of bounds because she's not sober yet? What makes them different from each other?

The roommate was presumably anonymous. I don't think it's about making fun of alcoholism; I think his problem is shaming people who are weakened by factors beyond their immediate control, like alcoholism.


Kathy A - Feb 22, 2007 9:48:11 am PST #2923 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

My mom said she could always tell when she had a salesman doing some cold-calling on the phone at work because they would invariably call her "Kathy." Her name is "Kathleen" or "Kay," and she was never called "Kathy" (that's me!). So, the salesman would always start off the call with a really ticked off nurse trying to do her job and ready to hang up on him just because he was presuming to know her name.


Sheryl - Feb 22, 2007 9:48:34 am PST #2924 of 10001
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Happy Birthday Laura!

I am home because someone spilled phenol in the lab, fairly close to my desk. He wiped up the spill, but the fumes remain. Safety and Fire Department people came by and claimed to have cleaned it up, but still: fumes. It was making my headache worse, so I took off.


Miracleman - Feb 22, 2007 9:51:22 am PST #2925 of 10001
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

" Hi Daisy how are you? Good. Good. Good. Y'all busy there today?" I mean it's this whole chit chat thing with someone who hasn't even told me his name yet, or said anything that would indicate a reason for the call or why he's being so familiar with me and OH MY GOD GET TO THE FUCKING POINT ALREADY!"

2 more aggravating things:

1) The person who just will NOT SHUT UP while you're trying to help them.

"Can you check on this PO for me?"

"Certainly, just a moment."

"Because I put it in yesterday."

"Uh-huh."

"I just wanted to make sure you got it."

"Okay, I'm just..."

"I really like your products..."

LISTEN, lady, I seriously DO NOT CARE. I want to answer your question and get you the FUCK off my phone. SHUT UP while I do that, kay?

2) "(Company Name), this Joe, how can I help you?"

"Hi. This is Marcia."

"Hi Marcia."

...

...

...

...

"Can I help you with something, Marcia?"

Like I'm supposed to know who the fuck "Marcia" is or something. "Oh, hi Marcia, I received your psychic plea for help through the aether and I'm not only looking up your PO right now, but I'm also arranging for you to finally experience a satisfying orgasm with your husband. Be just a sec."


§ ita § - Feb 22, 2007 9:52:03 am PST #2926 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

your perception is biased when you really can't know for sure who is too embarrassed to talk about it

From what Connie says, it's not embarassing for him. From his delivery it didn't seem so to me. He seemed quite matter of fact, not as if he had to muster his bravery, or god forbid, was having an Oprah moment.

The roommate was presumably anonymous. I don't think it's about making fun of alcoholism; I think his problem is shaming people who are weakened by factors beyond their immediate control, like alcoholism.

Fair point. I didn't think that it was about making fun of alcholism--but the divide that you're harshing on people where *I* actually know who the person is (and they know millions of people know) is a clear divide.

Him not thinking ahead to meeting the people he gets laughs off of is just plain weird. It's not even like you should need to think ahead to meeting them. It's not about meeting them. It's about them existing and having feelings that may be affected by your work.


Liese S. - Feb 22, 2007 9:53:49 am PST #2927 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I do that thing on the phone. Sorry! But it's because I have massive, massive phone fear and it's enough that I'm on the phone talking to you and give me credit for trying to make social niceties with you because all I really want to do is blurt out what I need and have you do it! Ahem. Yes, you're still fine. I just have spastic responses, because I'm not typically the one who says first, how are you? Usually I'm the one that says, "Fine, and you?" Unless I'm on the phone, calling you.

Hee. I was aiming for funny and self-deprecating, and that came out all defensive and retaliatory, and I don't mean it that way!

I dunno about the celeb thing. IME, the celebs I know don't roll high enough to know the other celebs in other fields and to treat them all like other humans. They're not immune to the machine, they're just caught up in it in a higher gear than we are.


Connie Neil - Feb 22, 2007 9:54:36 am PST #2928 of 10001
brillig

MM, your experience is precisely why I love the fact that I've been transferred from phones to chat support. A) I hate talking to strangers (I don't care if I'm good at it, I still hate it), B) too many people are idiots.


Cashmere - Feb 22, 2007 9:55:04 am PST #2929 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I'd read excerpts of his monologue, but that's the first time I heard the whole thing. I love him. I'm going to have to start TiVoing his show.

Rent Saving Grace--he's BRILLIANT in that.

Today's outing was going to get the oil changed. We stopped by for a snack pack of Timbits for a snack. I highly recommend that.