I love both Hicks and Leary. I'm bothered to hear of direct material ripoff, and not just style copying.
This girl at school? She told me that gelatin is made from ground-up cow's feet and that every time you eat Jell-O there's some cow out there limping around without any feet. But I told her that I'm sure the cow is dead before they cut its feet off, right?
Dawn ,'Never Leave Me'
Natter Five-O: Book 'Em, Danno.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Sean K - Feb 16, 2007 11:25:10 am PST #1520 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
DavidS - Feb 16, 2007 11:25:29 am PST #1521 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
This wikiepedia note on Leary and No Cure For Cancer lays out some of the plagiarism charge.
I'd like to see side by side transcripts.
§ ita § - Feb 16, 2007 11:26:23 am PST #1522 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
How stretchy is an umbilical cord? It'd be handy if they were the right length to not hit the ground, in a newborn bungee sort of way.
Tommy, does it look, smell, or taste funny? If not, I'd use it.
Cashmere - Feb 16, 2007 11:30:54 am PST #1523 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.
How stretchy is an umbilical cord? It'd be handy if they were the right length to not hit the ground, in a newborn bungee sort of way.
That would be sort of convenient now, wouldn't it? Pretty sure it doesn't have that much of a safety design, sadly.
Tommy, when in doubt, toss it out.
DH is running to get takeout from here. They have a thick, sweet, Kansas City type sauce which I love. Brisket, corn pudding, baked beans and green beans. And possibly, sugar cream pie.
Cashmere - Feb 16, 2007 11:31:02 am PST #1524 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.
§ ita § - Feb 16, 2007 11:32:21 am PST #1525 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Tommy, when in doubt, toss it out.
It's maple syrup! I, uh, am of the when in doubt, taste it again school.
ER just had a Heroes shoutout.
DavidS - Feb 16, 2007 11:32:25 am PST #1526 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Some more on Hicks/Leary:
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As comedian and actress Susannah Bianchi put it, "When [Bill Hicks] said, 'I hate Billy Ray Cyrus.' - he meant it. When Leary said that, it was only part of an act."[7]
The controversy surrounding plagiarism is also mentioned in American Scream: The Bill Hicks Story by Cynthia True[8]
When asked about Leary, Hicks told an interviewer: "I have a scoop for you. I stole his act. I camouflaged it with punchlines, and to really throw people off, I did it before he did."[9]
Leary was in Montreal to host the Nasty Show at Club Soda and Colleen was coordinating the talent so she was standing backstage when she heard Leary doing material that sounded incredibly similar to old Hicks riffs, including his perennial Jim Fixx joke: ("Keith Richards outlived Jim Fixx, the runner and health nut dude. The plot thickens.") When Leary came offstage, Colleen said, more stunned than angry, "Hey, you know that's Bill Hicks's material! Do you know that's his material?" Leary stood there, stared at her without saying a word, and briskly left the dressing room.
erikaj - Feb 16, 2007 11:32:26 am PST #1527 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
Love both guys...feeling really torn right now. And also sick enough to think "Well, it's not like Bill is *using* them at the moment." I guess that's what really keeps me a Leary fan: Being a sick bitch. Disclaimer: Totally don't approve of plagiarism, of course.
Aims - Feb 16, 2007 11:38:33 am PST #1528 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
I'm kinda with you Erika. I could care less. Doesn't make me enjoy either any less. They both make me laugh my fool head off. t shrug
erikaj - Feb 16, 2007 11:42:03 am PST #1529 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
And I love that every time Tommy gets all "I'm a 9/11/ hero." he gets the smackdown for it.