Well, then, this is a day I'll feel good to be me.
Mal ,'Trash'
Natter Five-O: Book 'Em, Danno.
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Cashmere - Feb 16, 2007 11:31:02 am PST #1524 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.
§ ita § - Feb 16, 2007 11:32:21 am PST #1525 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Tommy, when in doubt, toss it out.
It's maple syrup! I, uh, am of the when in doubt, taste it again school.
ER just had a Heroes shoutout.
DavidS - Feb 16, 2007 11:32:25 am PST #1526 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Some more on Hicks/Leary:
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As comedian and actress Susannah Bianchi put it, "When [Bill Hicks] said, 'I hate Billy Ray Cyrus.' - he meant it. When Leary said that, it was only part of an act."[7]
The controversy surrounding plagiarism is also mentioned in American Scream: The Bill Hicks Story by Cynthia True[8]
When asked about Leary, Hicks told an interviewer: "I have a scoop for you. I stole his act. I camouflaged it with punchlines, and to really throw people off, I did it before he did."[9]
Leary was in Montreal to host the Nasty Show at Club Soda and Colleen was coordinating the talent so she was standing backstage when she heard Leary doing material that sounded incredibly similar to old Hicks riffs, including his perennial Jim Fixx joke: ("Keith Richards outlived Jim Fixx, the runner and health nut dude. The plot thickens.") When Leary came offstage, Colleen said, more stunned than angry, "Hey, you know that's Bill Hicks's material! Do you know that's his material?" Leary stood there, stared at her without saying a word, and briskly left the dressing room.
erikaj - Feb 16, 2007 11:32:26 am PST #1527 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
Love both guys...feeling really torn right now. And also sick enough to think "Well, it's not like Bill is *using* them at the moment." I guess that's what really keeps me a Leary fan: Being a sick bitch. Disclaimer: Totally don't approve of plagiarism, of course.
Aims - Feb 16, 2007 11:38:33 am PST #1528 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.
I'm kinda with you Erika. I could care less. Doesn't make me enjoy either any less. They both make me laugh my fool head off. t shrug
erikaj - Feb 16, 2007 11:42:03 am PST #1529 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!
And I love that every time Tommy gets all "I'm a 9/11/ hero." he gets the smackdown for it.
tommyrot - Feb 16, 2007 11:43:07 am PST #1530 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.
And I love that every time Tommy gets all "I'm a 9/11/ hero." he gets the smackdown for it.
I was confused for a second....
DavidS - Feb 16, 2007 11:44:47 am PST #1531 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Totally don't approve of plagiarism, of course.
Really? Not even tacitly by accepting Leary's plagiarisms, endorsing his shows and lusting after his bad boy act?
I could care less
But you'd care if somebody started passing Joe's columns off as their own words, right? Because you'd know how hard Joe worked on them, and that's his voice?
Connie Neil - Feb 16, 2007 11:44:52 am PST #1532 of 10001
brillig
It'd be handy if they were the right length to not hit the ground, in a newborn bungee sort of way.
snerk
§ ita § - Feb 16, 2007 11:46:20 am PST #1533 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I don't respect anyone who's willing to take credit for someone else's work. It's not like the music field where there are singer/songwriters and just plain singers and just plain songwriters (have I typed that already today? I think it's time for me to get some air--the headache's easing up). Standups are assumed to have written their own stuff.
Performing is an art. I knew a standup named Bobby Hsu who was an acerbically hysterical writer. Couldn't deliver for shit. The comedians lined up at the back of the room would be howling with laughter, as would his friends, but the general audience couldn't give a damn. I wonder what he's doing now. I hope he's writing somewhere, and someone with a performance gift is displaying it. With appropriate credit.