One classmate went so far as to say that neither example was slavery because they weren't removed from their countries.
Not to mention that, by that standard, neither the Greeks nor the Romans (nor any number of other civilizations in which you could end up owned by another person for reasons ranging from the Aimée's-classmate-approved "Lost the war, was forcibly taken from homeland" to "Owe the rich family at the other end of town more than I could pay back in a year" to "My dad has too many daughters and the local temple needs whorespriestesses") practiced slavery at all.
eta: Plus, as ita and others note, the huge gap during which slave-owning nations had enough homegrown slaves to no longer need to import them, which by classmate's definition makes it not slavery. Not enough @@ in the world.
Narrowing the definition like that really spiffs up 98% of human history, doesn't it? Or, not.
ION, fuck. Not getting paid until 2/7 at the earliest. Stabbity stab stab.
Also, my daughter is off being unbearably cute someplace halfway across town and I'm not there.
However, it's Olivia's natal day, which is news of great and delicious awesomeness! Wishing her bunches of parental raspberries on her belly and a ton of cake gleefully smushed all over.
I'm going on memory as to the exact date, ita, but the slave trade was made illegal in the U.S. in 1808. Chattel slavery was made illegal nationwide by the 13th Amendment in 1865, though the Northern states had prohibited the practice before.
And from your link, Aimée, I'm reminded of Native American slavery, which doesn't have inherent dislocation either.
Tsk, tsk.
which doesn't have inherent dislocation either.
SO PISSED I didn't find that link earlier. I could have included that as well. I just might anyway since it is a discussion week and I need to post more responses.
Happy Birthday to my honeybunny Liv!!!
Tess had stripped naked, drawn some sort of toddler tribal symbols all over her body with bath crayons and was standing in front of her mirror yelling, "YEAAAHH!"
I know many adults who do this.
Hell, I know many *Buffistas* who do this.
Rule One, Tep! You forgot Rule One!
Rule One, Tep! You forgot Rule One!
The who with the what, now?
Um, we don't talk about Fight Naked Club?
I really dislike this. Not that it's not a valid choice of framing for a discussion, but just because I think it happens enough that people think of it as the slavery, instead of one instance of slavery.
And framing it that way also puts slavery firmly in the past ignoring it as a current problem.
And what's really funny (not "haha" funny) about that is that the discussion question is "How did slavery cause evolution in "White" and "Black" America?"
