I'm a single undead gal trying to make it in the big city. I have to start somewhere and they're evil here. They don't judge. They've got necro-tempered glass. No burning up. A great medical plan, and who needs dental more than us?

Harmony ,'Conviction (1)'


Spike's Bitches 34: They're All Slime and Antlers  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


§ ita § - Jan 17, 2007 3:15:03 pm PST #1503 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I would still contend that Cindy's argument is correct. That basic human decency would suffice to compel most of the people here to rise above what ever limits of energy and selfishness they see in themselves. If they had to.

This is Hec stating your position, but you didn't refute it. I disagree with it. Here's where I came to my conclusion based on your words:

I call bullshit. There are too many bad parents out there to safely make that assumption. And a "Well, Bitches would rise to the occasion" rejoinder gets a "Bullshit" reply from me too. You just don't know. Being a good person doesn't ensure being a good parent, and being a Bitch doesn't either.

Strictly speaking ita, you're right. I can't know who here is a decent person

Why did decency come into it, then, if you're not somehow responding to (nay, challenging) what you quoted of mine? I say you don't know if someone's going to be a good parent, and you say you don't know who's a decent person--is that a parallel construction, then, and not equivalency? If it is parallel, how is it applicable?


Cass - Jan 17, 2007 3:18:37 pm PST #1504 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I shipped them before I was a slasher. They're so freaking married.
OMFG, How did no one make me watch this before now??????????????

I think we're at the beginnings of a new flail. I so needed a flail tonight.


P.M. Marc - Jan 17, 2007 3:37:47 pm PST #1505 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

DUDE, ask me, Lee, or SA about the addictive quality of SN.

Seriously, we all have experience the thing where you start watching, and it'll just be ONE episode, and four episodes later, you're finally crawling off to bed, muttering something about Danny and speaking Sorkinese.


Aims - Jan 17, 2007 3:44:22 pm PST #1506 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

OR ME!!

"I hate to correct you on your own show Casey, but there are actually 52 states including Alaska and Rhode Island."


Lee - Jan 17, 2007 3:44:55 pm PST #1507 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

DUDE, ask me, Lee, or SA about the addictive quality of SN.

Pick Me! (since I just got to the end of the thread).

So very very married, and hot and smart and snarky and stuff.

Once you are done with the show, read shrift's fic.

THE NAWTY WORM HAS BEEN FOUND.

It is NOT a nawty worm. What is wrong with you people?!


Polter-Cow - Jan 17, 2007 3:49:45 pm PST #1508 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Are we sure Helsinki's in Finland?


Topic!Cindy - Jan 17, 2007 3:55:14 pm PST #1509 of 10001
What is even happening?

ita, this is feeling really circular. I think we read Hec's posts differently, have different definitions of selfish (because I never would have used selfish in this conversation in the first place) probably are putting different weights to 'decent' and I don't know what else. These things are all fine. There is no more meat left on the bone.


Cass - Jan 17, 2007 3:55:38 pm PST #1510 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

and speaking Sorkinese.
"We know what today was. We just didn't know what Thursday was."
Once you are done with the show, read shrift's fic.
I'm three episodes in. I suspect I will watch all of the two disks I have tonight. How soon can I read the fic????????

Yeah, I'm doomed. It's a good doom though.


Lee - Jan 17, 2007 3:57:17 pm PST #1511 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I suspect I will watch all of the two disks I have tonight. How soon can I read the fic????????

Depends on which fic, but I would wait to see more of it.

Do you need someone to send you the others, or are you netflixing them?


Deena - Jan 17, 2007 4:10:44 pm PST #1512 of 10001
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

deleted since the conversation seems to be done.

And in other, slightly gross, parenting news:
We're trying to get Aidan to not be terrified of the toilet, so, after changing him tonight, I held out the diaper and said, "This is your poopie."
He squealed a little and shied away.
"It came out of your butt."
He snuck up on the diaper, tilted his head and looked at for a minute. "Sorry," he said.
"Let's go flush it down the toilet where it belongs."

Then I had to drag him into the bathroom, kicking and screaming, to watch it die its watery death. He got interested when I didn't force him to actually sit on the toilet, though, and was quite willing to help me pull the lever. So, as long as we don't have a "ducky go down the hole" incident, I think we're a little bit ahead of where we were.

I loved the "sorry," though. Between that, him saying, "these are my mittens" in the car today (personal pronoun and complete sentence ahoy!) AND seeing a boy from his class outside of school and not running away or slapping him, but instead, grinning hugely and petting him, I feel like we've hit the trifecta of awesome with that boy.

Oh, and to add a Kara story for balance:

"Mom, you know my bear bank (see through plastic in a bear shape)? It's Pooh. I know it's pooh because it looks like pooh, smells like pooh, and tastes like pooh."

And she couldn't understand why I started laughing and couldn't stop.