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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Am-Chau Yarkona - Apr 14, 2003 7:25:33 am PDT #9644 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

(Is this something we need to vote on?)

The exisitance of an standarised warning or the wording of it?


amych - Apr 14, 2003 7:29:10 am PDT #9645 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

The exisitance of an standarised warning or the wording of it?

Neither, I hope.


Lyra Jane - Apr 14, 2003 7:30:49 am PDT #9646 of 10001
Up with the sun

Both, unfortunately, but probably as one vote (e.g., yes or no to a specific wording).

I'm not sure, because it seems like it might be the sort of thing we agreed not to vote on (I think we said we wouldn't vote on disciplining posters or Stompy duties). But I wanted to raise the point before someone started talking about a bullshit consensus.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Apr 14, 2003 7:36:13 am PDT #9647 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Both, unfortunately, but probably as one vote (e.g., yes or no to a specific wording).

Fair enough, but I think

I think we said we wouldn't vote on disciplining posters or Stompy duties

you're right here. I understand raising the point, but I think this is one of those things we don't vote on.


Laura - Apr 14, 2003 7:36:47 am PDT #9648 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I don't think it is a voting issue. Comfort levels would improve if we had some standard wording. This has only happened a couple times, but it has been very painful. Yeah, we like to talk, but I personally think a more streamlined process would be less stressful. We are still going to address the problem, but if there is consensus that a problem exists then having a standard response is good.

I could have said that with a lot fewer words. Coffee now.


Cindy - Apr 14, 2003 7:40:26 am PDT #9649 of 10001
Nobody

removed because I was drafting something people weren't talking about - sorry for the confusion


Jesse - Apr 14, 2003 7:42:28 am PDT #9650 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

IMO, we don't need consensus around warnings. If we agree that making other people feel bad is wrong, not everyone has to feel bad before there's a problem. If you know what I'm saying. If ten people are offended, and ten people are not, I still think there should be a warning. And it's been said before, but warnings are not the end of the world.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Apr 14, 2003 7:46:52 am PDT #9651 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Cindy, you did say to play with it:

Bureacracy

We need more of u in here.


amych - Apr 14, 2003 7:46:53 am PDT #9652 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

No, seriously. This is really, truly not a voting matter.

We have a system that says misbehavers get a warning letter from the stompies. If we wanted to change the system so that we would no longer have a warning, that would require a vote.

What we're talking about here is, as a matter of stompy convenience, having something written out in advance. It's an administrative matter, not a policy. If we're going to have a whole discussion and vote, this place will truly have turned into the student council meeting from hell.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Apr 14, 2003 7:49:05 am PDT #9653 of 10001
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

This is really, truly not a voting matter.

Indeed. For the reasons outlined by Jesse:

If we agree that making other people feel bad is wrong, not everyone has to feel bad before there's a problem. If you know what I'm saying. If ten people are offended, and ten people are not, I still think there should be a warning.

It's not a consensus, or a vote. It's "people feel bad, let's try and stop that."