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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Noumenon - Apr 12, 2003 6:25:51 pm PDT #9489 of 10001
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti

People were suggesting possibilities re: my non-existence as a physical entity. --Deena

Warnings and suspensions look pretty mild next to that!


Steph L. - Apr 12, 2003 6:26:42 pm PDT #9490 of 10001
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

I am thirding

Heh. If we vote, can we get more Allyson around here?

...it was a JOKE, people! Really!

(Well, the wanting more Allyson isn't a joke; the wanting a vote IS.)


victor infante - Apr 12, 2003 6:37:28 pm PDT #9491 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I vote that I receive a Federal subsidy to have Allyson follow me around and make snarky comments to people who annoy me.


§ ita § - Apr 12, 2003 6:39:33 pm PDT #9492 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

You can't vote before you propose, Victor.


P.M. Marc - Apr 12, 2003 6:41:39 pm PDT #9493 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Victor can't propose! He's already married.


victor infante - Apr 12, 2003 6:41:58 pm PDT #9494 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

But... but... I'm an anarchist! That's the whole point!


thessaly - Apr 12, 2003 7:44:29 pm PDT #9495 of 10001
"...and that calls for some hard-hitting, potentially violent SCIENCE!"

But... but... I'm an anarchist! That's the whole point!

To marriage? Most certainly. ;)


Wolfram - Apr 12, 2003 8:59:33 pm PDT #9496 of 10001
Visilurking

300+ posts in Bureacracy and not one from yours truly. Agree with most of the stuff. I was one of Z's biggest defender in the Allyson kerfuffle, and now I'm beginning to see Allyson's side. A warning was long-deserved.

On a separate note, Allyson, I'm sorry you've found this board less than ideal, and I'm sorry for anything I did to contribute to that feeling. Please come back.


Nutty - Apr 12, 2003 9:16:26 pm PDT #9497 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Process Geeks Unite!!

As soon as they have enough comments they say "OK, we've have enough info" and ask that comments stop, possibly waiting for potential warnee to say something if enough time has not been given.

Gar, I'm thinking, where Bureaucracy is a place that people make administrative decisions, this may work. But where Bureaucracy is a place that people express their feelings? Not so good. I know that the latter isn't entirely pertinent to the decision-making process nor to the Stompy informational needs, but it's part of what happens. I don't think, once begun, that an emotional outpouring can be stopped on command.

Me, I like to see it all talked out, even the endless circular stuff, because it satisfies a confessional need among the posters and it allows us all to try to think out our positions as we argue pro/con whatever's on the table. I mean, I'm never pleased when Bureaucracy balloons with unhappiness, but inasmuch as the unhappiness is expressed openly and acknowledged by all, and inasmuch as we're all working to minimize unhappiness, I feel good about how we use Bureaucracy. Even the repetitive and boring parts. That are repetitive. And redundant.


Gandalfe - Apr 12, 2003 9:32:18 pm PDT #9498 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

After mostly skimming today (new job, wot wot), a couple of things:

ita: Yes, one of my points is that there's no process in place. Thank you for taking on the odious task of warning her.

Is anybody interested in figuring out how many people actually said that she deserves a warning because of this issue, as opposed to just in general because everyone else is so obviously upset? (I'm in the second group, if you're counting.) I'd be interested to use that as a baseline for Stompies to figure out when enough is enough.

I'm somehow involved in all the kerfluffles lately, aren't I?