Simon: I'm trying to put this as delicately as I can... How do I know you won't kill me in my sleep? Mal: You don't know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.

'Serenity'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Trudy Booth - Apr 12, 2003 1:07:57 am PDT #9304 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I'm sorry, how would it make the situation worse to notify Zoe (or any poster) that her/their behaviour is in violation of CS?

Because if she's doing it deliberately we are only feeding her and the behaivor will increase.

Why would banning be wrong? Because it's just not THAT bad.


Elena - Apr 12, 2003 1:09:11 am PDT #9305 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

Let's just pretend for a second that it is. What if someone had a disability that made civil discourse not always possible? I think it would be unkind (and by people who CAN do better) to harp on it.

So when a person with a disability spits in your face you should just sit and take it because they can't help themselves? Or do you just stop inviting them to your party?

Besides, I'm not convinced that Zoe has such a disability, nor has she (to my knowledge) claim to have one.


Elena - Apr 12, 2003 1:10:00 am PDT #9306 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

Why would banning be wrong? Because it's just not THAT bad.

Which is why we are discussing warning her. Because it is that bad. IMO.


arby - Apr 12, 2003 1:10:31 am PDT #9307 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

Even if she can't help it (which I agree is most likely the case), she's causing too much harm to the community. Is tolerating her worth driving many others away?

Even if we had MARCIE, I don't think it would solve the problem.


askye - Apr 12, 2003 1:11:08 am PDT #9308 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

Okay---jumping back in a second before I go to bed.

If Zoe does have a medical reason for her behaviour then I'm willing to give her some kind of allowances but so far we have no proof of this only speculation. If she does have a medical reason then, well, we shouldn't warn her and figure out something.

However, if she is a troll , then we do need to warn her. Warning her won't changer her behaviour but it will lead to her getting banned, yes I realize that if Zoe were to recieve another warning she would be suspended. However, if she is acting to deliberatly disrupt our community then that's what we need to do in order to end the disruption.


Trudy Booth - Apr 12, 2003 1:11:16 am PDT #9309 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

This isn't a by-invitation party. It's more of a public square where you can wander away from the guy who keeps talking about shower curtain rings.

And it was a "just suppose".


Kat - Apr 12, 2003 1:13:23 am PDT #9310 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

t deletia

point I was making is useless.


Elena - Apr 12, 2003 1:14:20 am PDT #9311 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

It's more of a public square where you can wander away from the guy who keeps talking about shower curtain rings.

What about the person that shouts homophobic slogans while you're trying to talk about penguin lust?

Thing is, if it's disruptive it's disruptive - no matter the reasons why.

I know it was a just suppose... Mine is too, really.


arby - Apr 12, 2003 1:14:29 am PDT #9312 of 10001
Guy #1: Man, there are so many hipsters around. I hate hipsters! Guy #2: You're at the wrong place. That's like going to Vegas only to say "I hate titties!" --The Warsaw, Williamsburg (OINY)

But it's not just talking about shower rings, it's jumping into conversations and being provocative in a not-very-nice way. If it were just talking about shower rings, MARCIE would take care of it.


askye - Apr 12, 2003 1:16:57 am PDT #9313 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

If she's deliberatly provoking people to get them upset then she's being a troll, she maybe doing it on a smaller scale but it's still deliberate.

Not to mention the fact that if (excluding the day after a new show) I see a huge jump in posts in Buffy/Angel thread my first thought is to wonder what Zoe has said now to piss people off and dread reading the thread. Even if she said nothing at all that's still my first thought.