And was ignored, fairly pointedly, until she felt compelled to make a post to try to get some attention.

Thing is, she does that. She'll post the same thing over and over until she gets a response. And that response is usually negative, because people used up all their polite ignoring the first few posts.

I've thought about what Nutty said, that if you self-select to be part of a community, then you try to be a part of that community. And I don't see her doing that.

Granted, that doesn't mean hold hands and sing Kumbayah. That doesn't mean getting to know everyone personally. That DOES mean adhering to the community standards. And she doesn't.

She's disruptive. If a number of people are calling for an ENUF filter because of her, that indicates that she's disruptive. And that necessitates an *official* warning, IMO.

it's saying "You're pissing people off, and if you don't chill we'll have to do something about it."

And IMO, this is exactly what needs to be said.

Individual community members repeatedly saying "please tone down the rudeness" has had zero effect. It's time for Stomping.

She did, however, respond to the original question, which nobody seems to have noticed.

She responded to the original question after it was asked three more times by three separate people.

a significant portion of the community

Well, unless we put them to vote, it's really a significant portion of the Stompies. Just to be clear. Is this the type of thing we want to put to a vote? I'd doubt it, but we need to be specific.

Also, we would need to point to specific posts that are issues, including copies of the relevant portions - so that we have proof, and they can't just delete them.

Gandalfe you are totally misrepresenting who is complaining.

If you go back and look at who has made complaints: me, Kat, Elena, Allyson, Steph, etc--we aren't Stompies.

Besides we already have procedures to deal with problem posters. We figured this out back when we were on Worldcrossing before Buffistas.org went live.

She responded to the original question after it was asked three more times by three separate people.

Did anybody comment on her response? I don't remember seeing any, but I could be wrong.

And IMO, this is exactly what needs to be said.

And what will be done? I mean, I (of all people) know that it's a sensitive subject, but there is only 1 thing that can be done officially, and ignoring that fact isn't going to make it go away. Have the things she's done been bad enough to deserve banishment if they continue? Because if not, then it's just blowing smoke.

If a number of people are calling for an ENUF filter because of her, that indicates that she's disruptive.

Are you saying that the ONLY reason people want a filter is because of her? Or are people saying, "Gee, if we had the filter, then this wouldn't be an issue?" Hell, I'm absolutely certain that I'd be filtered - at least by most of the people in this thread. (For the record, my tongue is completely planted in my cheek right now.)

Understand that I have no position on her one way or t'other - she's annoying to me, but no more so than many. Then again, I put up with some of the serious trolls on TT, so maybe my immunity is built up. But you can't say "Oh, let's warn her" without being aware of the consequences of that if she doesn't comply.

Not a Stompy either, and I don't believe we ever decided to vote on warnings. The procedure is this: lots of people are annoyed, lots of people complain, those complaints are acted on.

I think.

Gandalfe you are totally misrepresenting who is complaining.

I'm sorry, I was being unclear on my train of thought.

Can YOU make an Official Warning? Can I? Because if not, and it doesn't go to vote, then it's the Stompies, perhaps based on other people's recommendations, but they're the ones who have to decide to do it.

We aren't talking about banishing her at this point.

You are jumping way ahead of things.

All we are asking is that someone official tell her to be more aware of her posts and the kind of distress that she's causing.

If she listens to the warning and changes her ways then everything will be fine.

And Gandalfe, yes, Zoe finally answered the question about why she used quotes. However her response still wasn't very clear but I think everyone pretty much gave up on trying to get an understandable answer.