Gandalfe you are totally misrepresenting who is complaining.

If you go back and look at who has made complaints: me, Kat, Elena, Allyson, Steph, etc--we aren't Stompies.

Besides we already have procedures to deal with problem posters. We figured this out back when we were on Worldcrossing before Buffistas.org went live.

She responded to the original question after it was asked three more times by three separate people.

Did anybody comment on her response? I don't remember seeing any, but I could be wrong.

And IMO, this is exactly what needs to be said.

And what will be done? I mean, I (of all people) know that it's a sensitive subject, but there is only 1 thing that can be done officially, and ignoring that fact isn't going to make it go away. Have the things she's done been bad enough to deserve banishment if they continue? Because if not, then it's just blowing smoke.

If a number of people are calling for an ENUF filter because of her, that indicates that she's disruptive.

Are you saying that the ONLY reason people want a filter is because of her? Or are people saying, "Gee, if we had the filter, then this wouldn't be an issue?" Hell, I'm absolutely certain that I'd be filtered - at least by most of the people in this thread. (For the record, my tongue is completely planted in my cheek right now.)

Understand that I have no position on her one way or t'other - she's annoying to me, but no more so than many. Then again, I put up with some of the serious trolls on TT, so maybe my immunity is built up. But you can't say "Oh, let's warn her" without being aware of the consequences of that if she doesn't comply.

Not a Stompy either, and I don't believe we ever decided to vote on warnings. The procedure is this: lots of people are annoyed, lots of people complain, those complaints are acted on.

I think.

Gandalfe you are totally misrepresenting who is complaining.

I'm sorry, I was being unclear on my train of thought.

Can YOU make an Official Warning? Can I? Because if not, and it doesn't go to vote, then it's the Stompies, perhaps based on other people's recommendations, but they're the ones who have to decide to do it.

We aren't talking about banishing her at this point.

You are jumping way ahead of things.

All we are asking is that someone official tell her to be more aware of her posts and the kind of distress that she's causing.

If she listens to the warning and changes her ways then everything will be fine.

And Gandalfe, yes, Zoe finally answered the question about why she used quotes. However her response still wasn't very clear but I think everyone pretty much gave up on trying to get an understandable answer.

And Gandalfe, yes, Zoe finally answered the question about why she used quotes.

But not until she was rude first, called on it, then she deleted her rude post.

Is that a problem poster? Not if it happens once -- everyone has bad days, or sensitive subjects that cause them to lose perspective. But she's done this over and over and over. Many people, in many threads, have asked her to watch her tone. And she doesn't apologize; she comes back with a snippy/rude/flippant comment.

That is disruptive, and not adhering to community standards as set forth in the site etiquette page.

I'm totally confused about what this vote thing is about.

Someone asked for a Stompy to please warn her about her behaviour. And then debate started over whether or not Zoe's behaviour warranted a warning.

I have no idea if a warning has been issued.

We aren't trying to VOTE on the issue, we're just being Buffistas and airing our greivences and opinions and thoughts.

There are many of us who have been holding our tongues for months.

There are many of us who have been holding our tongues for months.

And, to be totally accurate, a number who have NOT, who have asked Zoe, in-thread, to watch her tone.

When a poster does not adhere to the in-thread request to watch his/her tone, the next step is an e-mail from a Stompy, reiterating that request and (I think) pointing out that the next step, if the poster doesn't watch his/her tone, is suspension for 2 months.

We aren't talking about banishing her at this point. . . . If she listens to the warning and changes her ways then everything will be fine.

Yes, you are, because that is what HAS to happen if she doesn't heed the warning.

You are jumping way ahead of things.

Perhaps I can be accused of looking ahead, but only because nobody else seems to be willing to. Look, when you give an employee a warning at work, there is an implicit (or possibly explicit) statement of "Make it right, or you'll be fired." This is the same thing. If an employer does not then follow thru if it's not taken care of, there is no point to the warning being issued in the first place.

I know how squeamish we all are about this, but, damnit! You are saying "Oh, let's just warn her and then everything will be fine" and ignoring the possibility that it WON'T be.

However her response still wasn't very clear but I think everyone pretty much gave up on trying to get an understandable answer.

To be honest, I thought that her response was poorly thought out bullshit. Because she sometimes puts the quotes around the characters and sometimes around the actors, and sometimes around the names of the posters she is responding to, and sometimes around what appear to me to be random words.

"Oh, let's just warn her and then everything will be fine" and ignoring the possibility that it WON'T be.

Well, you're right. It might not.

Every posting board is not right for every person.