Um, well, we listened to aggressively cheerful music sung by people chosen for their ability to dance. Then we ate cookie dough, and talked about boys.

Giles ,'Get It Done'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Wolfram - Mar 24, 2003 8:41:13 am PST #8799 of 10001
Visilurking

Wolfram, dude, you're writing your posts in some word-processing program that automatically replaces all the quotation marks or apostrophes you type (", ') with the special-character "smart quotes", which curl around the word instead of being straight.

Thanks for the explanation Rebecca. Unfortunately, I only compose in the handy box, or wordperfect and this time it's in the handy box. Let me know if I'm being curly.

On another matter, discussion on moratorium ends today, and did we decide whether that moves the next issue to discussion right away, or do we have to wait until after the vote?


Sophia Brooks - Mar 24, 2003 8:51:19 am PST #8800 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think it would be confusing to have the thread open and not be able to talk about the current vote. I think we have to get an issue through completely before we get another one through. And it should take some of the voteing, voting, voting stuff away...


brenda m - Mar 24, 2003 8:52:32 am PST #8801 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I don't see any reason to wait - though we do need to get cracking on getting our question formulated.

We could close the thread and reopen in the morning (or at noon?) if we wanted to give everyone a breather and make it clear that we're on to new stuff. But I wouldn't wait until the voting is through.


Jon B. - Mar 24, 2003 8:54:14 am PST #8802 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I agree with Brenda. I want to get this process stuff over with ASAP.


Wolfram - Mar 24, 2003 8:55:07 am PST #8803 of 10001
Visilurking

We could close the thread and reopen in the morning (or at noon?) if we wanted to give everyone a breather and make it clear that we're on to new stuff. But I wouldn't wait until the voting is through.

Or wait one full day for voting, since most of the votes come in the first day. Any discussion on the previous vote could be discouraged in the discussion thread.

ETA:

I agree with Brenda. I want to get this process stuff over with ASAP.

Wrod.


Jon B. - Mar 24, 2003 9:11:27 am PST #8804 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Any discussion on the previous vote could be discouraged in the discussion thread.

I hope so. Since we voted that it would end once voting began. ;)


Wolfram - Mar 24, 2003 11:00:11 am PST #8805 of 10001
Visilurking

After looking at Jesse's proposed ballot, I realized this would be a good opportunity to vote on whether the moratorium should apply to "old issues" or not as well. Although no formal discussion has happened on that, does anyone else think it might be okay to add it to this ballot just to dispose of the issue? The two really do go hand in hand.


Jon B. - Mar 24, 2003 11:39:16 am PST #8806 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I think that people might have different opinions depending on the results of the first question.


Wolfram - Mar 24, 2003 12:19:18 pm PST #8807 of 10001
Visilurking

I think that people might have different opinions depending on the results of the first question.

In theory this shouldn't be so. The question boils down to what the appropriate way to handle old issues is, regardless of how long the moratorium period ends up being.

We used to put 4 items on a ballot. Now we're doing one at a time which, IMO, is dragging the whole process out. This ballot could also be used to vote on the Preferential voting/Runoff issue which was left open after the last ballot.

Speaking of which, I move that we discuss how multi-vote items that fail to get over 50% of the vote should get decided.


askye - Mar 24, 2003 12:21:16 pm PST #8808 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I'd rather wait and vote on one issue at a time. Especially for the moritorum on old issues, that has been a difficult issue already for us and I don't want anyone to feel rushed into making a vote.