'War Stories'
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Oh! and if are truly able to revisit decisions not previously voted on but decided by consensus, can we also vote on whether or not we should even have allowed a discussion of voting in the first place, thereby nullifying the vote to allow us to vote?
It would be like getting bureaucracy to eat its own tail.
I think it's been presented very clearly why voting on the War Thread RIGHT NOW is problematic and sets a very bad precedent. The very ferocity of the debate, it seems to me, indicates that this is a sore point for a lot of people. And the sore point isn't the War Thread per se, it is the idea that, if someone doesn't like the way consensus/the vote turned out, he/she should raise it again a little bit later.
"From beneath you, it devours." It really is all connected.
can we also vote on whether or not we should even have allowed a discussion of voting in the first place.
Oh I think we're getting to a place where you'd have no trouble finding seconds for that.
Oh I think we're getting to a place where you'd have no trouble finding seconds for that.
No! You can't do that.
Not before you find a good Zaphod Beeblebrox.
Oh I think we're getting to a place where you'd have no trouble finding seconds for that.
Among other things.
The Kat Collective speaks for me.
I'm going to chill and watch Twin Peaks. Whatev.
I understand why folks who weren't around for a lot of the consensus decisions might question that process or wonder why since we've instituted voting as a more fair practice we don't start voting.
I would emphasize that culturally there is a long history of dealing with issues by discussion and broad (if often undefined) agreement here. There are also strong feelings against overly regimenting this board or community. The voting is new. We're still figuring out the mechanics of voting.
I am very reluctant to undo any forward momentum we have achieved in establishing this new process to address any one particular issue.
Forward momentum has been difficult to achieve - you have to appreciate how much hard work and hurt feelings were sacrificed to get us to this point. Agreements have been delicate and based on trust.
It would be so incredibly counter-productive to sacrifice that to address one issue.
Zaphod Beeblebrox
Um. I have no idea what this means. </clueless>
John! MWAH! A shiny kiss for you (don't tell Thuy) because your syllogism is right on.
I'm blushing. Also someone will point out soon that it wasn't a syllogism, it was something else, but who cares.
when does a few people agreeing on something become a consensus, and when does that become a decision.
All the time. In the old days. Which are over. Hence the term "old days".
Um. I have no idea what this means. </clueless>
Zaphod was president of the galaxy by happenstance because "Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job."