Oh, and, if the war goes "well" -- and there are not enough inverted commas in the world -- but if it goes as hoped by some, it will be over before we can complete a vote.
She didn't even touch her pumpkin. It's a freak with no face.
Willow ,'Help'
Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
John H - Mar 20, 2003 3:40:04 pm PST #8231 of 10001
Wolfram - Mar 20, 2003 3:40:47 pm PST #8232 of 10001
Visilurking
Look, I would request that discussion on the merits of a war thread be reserved for the discussion thread, if this proposal gets the requisite seconds.
Discussion about whether the proposal is allowable is fair. But I don't think we need to hold off on the seconding for it. And nobody has provided a link to a decision.
Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2003 3:41:34 pm PST #8233 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
I'm just seeing a bunch of opinion posts and then the conversation moved in another direction. Is that what a consensus is?
Yup. We had a discussion. It ended. Nobody felt like challenging the results of the discussion.
Allyson - Mar 20, 2003 3:50:37 pm PST #8234 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
And here's where things get REALLY messy.
Noni - Mar 20, 2003 3:52:58 pm PST #8235 of 10001
Hi, lurker here.
I'll second that war discussion Wolf. May I call you Wolf?
Natter just doesn't seem the place to discuss war, unless it is to discuss Sadam's choice of boxers or briefs. And please don't take offense at that Natter seems like a pretty cool place to hang out.
bitterchick - Mar 20, 2003 3:56:06 pm PST #8236 of 10001
Okay, because I'm really pissed off at a client right now and don't feel like working for them, I actually read that freaking War Thread Discussion. My interpretation of the results was that 26 people were against, 6 people were for and 2 were undecided. Which to me, is pretty much a consensus.
[Edited to reflect updated numbers.]
P.M. Marc - Mar 20, 2003 3:57:25 pm PST #8237 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
23 people were against, 9 people were for and 2 were undecided.
Yes. And no freaking revisiting of things already decided. Jeebus.
Wolfram - Mar 20, 2003 3:58:18 pm PST #8238 of 10001
Visilurking
Nobody felt like challenging the results of the discussion.
I just skimmed the war posts (and FTR I was against the war thread) but no consensus was reached. The topic was changed to whitefonting in Buffy/Angel threads and then the movie thread. Many of the pro-thread people posted early and the anti-thread people posted later. And again, the circumstances have changed from discussing whether we are going to war, to actually being at war. I really don't want to have to threadsuck Natter and search for war posts, and conversely I don't want my posts getting lost in baking tips, and baby stories (not that I don't have posts about those either). I only ask that the separate thread topic be given an opportunity for discussion if enough Buffistas want it.
Jesse - Mar 20, 2003 3:59:17 pm PST #8239 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Which to me, is pretty much a consensus.
Of course, it's not an actual consensus, but it's as close as we were going to come.
Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2003 4:01:36 pm PST #8240 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
And at least some of the pro-thread people (including me, who started the discussion) were convinced by the anti-thread arguments and therefore shut up.