I'm just seeing a bunch of opinion posts and then the conversation moved in another direction. Is that what a consensus is?
Yup. We had a discussion. It ended. Nobody felt like challenging the results of the discussion.
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A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
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Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2003 3:41:34 pm PST #8233 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
Allyson - Mar 20, 2003 3:50:37 pm PST #8234 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
And here's where things get REALLY messy.
Noni - Mar 20, 2003 3:52:58 pm PST #8235 of 10001
Hi, lurker here.
I'll second that war discussion Wolf. May I call you Wolf?
Natter just doesn't seem the place to discuss war, unless it is to discuss Sadam's choice of boxers or briefs. And please don't take offense at that Natter seems like a pretty cool place to hang out.
bitterchick - Mar 20, 2003 3:56:06 pm PST #8236 of 10001
Okay, because I'm really pissed off at a client right now and don't feel like working for them, I actually read that freaking War Thread Discussion. My interpretation of the results was that 26 people were against, 6 people were for and 2 were undecided. Which to me, is pretty much a consensus.
[Edited to reflect updated numbers.]
P.M. Marc - Mar 20, 2003 3:57:25 pm PST #8237 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
23 people were against, 9 people were for and 2 were undecided.
Yes. And no freaking revisiting of things already decided. Jeebus.
Wolfram - Mar 20, 2003 3:58:18 pm PST #8238 of 10001
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Nobody felt like challenging the results of the discussion.
I just skimmed the war posts (and FTR I was against the war thread) but no consensus was reached. The topic was changed to whitefonting in Buffy/Angel threads and then the movie thread. Many of the pro-thread people posted early and the anti-thread people posted later. And again, the circumstances have changed from discussing whether we are going to war, to actually being at war. I really don't want to have to threadsuck Natter and search for war posts, and conversely I don't want my posts getting lost in baking tips, and baby stories (not that I don't have posts about those either). I only ask that the separate thread topic be given an opportunity for discussion if enough Buffistas want it.
Jesse - Mar 20, 2003 3:59:17 pm PST #8239 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Which to me, is pretty much a consensus.
Of course, it's not an actual consensus, but it's as close as we were going to come.
Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2003 4:01:36 pm PST #8240 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
And at least some of the pro-thread people (including me, who started the discussion) were convinced by the anti-thread arguments and therefore shut up.
Nutty - Mar 20, 2003 4:01:46 pm PST #8241 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
Basically, we talked it over, more people thought nay than yea, and it became the case that we talk war/politics in Natter, as we have done today. Is it really a problem, the war/politics posts in Natter? I think we've been remarkably civil, these past few days.
Unless what we have now is really broken, I'm going to stand with Betsy's waitaminnit and say that old decisions should be treated like voted in or voted out proposals, and should thus have a waiting period.
Betsy HP - Mar 20, 2003 4:03:54 pm PST #8242 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
I really don't want to have to threadsuck Natter and search for war posts, and conversely I don't want my posts getting lost in baking tips, and baby stories (not that I don't have posts about those either).
It will always be the case, for any topic, that several people are interested in just that topic, and would prefer not to have to read through everything else in order to get to that topic.
Our experience has been that creating a new topic increases bandwidth.
I oppose creating topics for that reason alone.