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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Jon B. - Mar 15, 2003 3:48:15 pm PST #7707 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I'll try, John. Unfortunately, my time is limited, but that hopefully won't be too difficult.


John H - Mar 15, 2003 3:49:54 pm PST #7708 of 10001

Cool. It was just a bit confusing before. We didn't get any reports of people voting twice though, did we?


Jon B. - Mar 15, 2003 4:48:02 pm PST #7709 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

OK, I think I've got the ballot working and the validations in. Could a few people test it out? It temporarily sends the votes to my email so they won't get accidentally counted as real votes.

TEST BALLOT


Laura - Mar 15, 2003 4:56:42 pm PST #7710 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Sent a ballot and got both the Vote submitted screen and the confirmation email.

I'll try it again with out of range numbers.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 15, 2003 4:57:13 pm PST #7711 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Jon:

The form is working for me!

Someone had suggested earlier that we break question 3 into 2 part, like question 4.

so

3a: How many Buffistas does it take to make a vote count?

And then the explaination and vote for it
.

3b Do votes of "no preference" count toward this?
And then the explaination and vote for it
.

If you vote no, you want only votes that preferone option to count toward the minimum.

I think this needs to be re-worded, because it sounds a bit like we are only counting EITHER yes or no votes. Of course, I can't seem to reword it so it doesn't sound like I am biased against it. All I can come up with is "you want only votes that make an actual choice"

Thanks Jon!

Also, did we come to any conclusion on the "2 to 100" thing?


DXMachina - Mar 15, 2003 4:58:00 pm PST #7712 of 10001
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

Looks good, Jon. I just cast a test ballot, and it looks like it's working properly. Upon submitting the ballot I got the "ballot cast" message on an otherwise blank template.


Jon B. - Mar 15, 2003 5:05:02 pm PST #7713 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Someone had suggested earlier that we break question 3 into 2 part, like question 4.

I was trying to do that, but failed. If someone can word it out in the next half hour, I can change it, but I think it's pretty clear as is.

I think this needs to be re-worded

How about "If you vote no, you want only votes for "yes" and "no" to count toward the minimum.

I realize that some future votes may have two options other than "yes" and "no", but this is clear enough for now, don't you think?

Also -- Laura, DX, Sophia -- your votes were received. Thanks.

Upon submitting the ballot I got the "ballot cast" message on an otherwise blank template.

As it should be.


Jon B. - Mar 15, 2003 5:13:06 pm PST #7714 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

How about "If you vote no, you want only votes for "yes" and "no" to count toward the minimum.

Better: "If you vote no, you want only votes that prefer either of the specific options to count toward the minimum."


DavidS - Mar 15, 2003 5:13:50 pm PST #7715 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I voted too, Jon. It went fine and I got the response email.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 15, 2003 5:14:09 pm PST #7716 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

ITEM 3: VOTER TURNOUT

How many Buffistas does it take to make a vote count?

Choose the minimum number of community members you think should have to vote on any item in order for the vote to count. If fewer than this minimum number vote on a particular item, then that item will have failed to pass regardless of the percentage of votes in favor. Please put a number between 2 and 100 into the box below. An average (rounded to the nearest whole number) of these numbers will be used to determine the voter turnout.

THEN THE VOTING BOX

THEN THE PRETTY LINE

Do votes of "no preference" count toward the minimum voter turnout?

If you vote yes, you would allow people to register their vote as a "No Preference" ?that is, with no preference for either choice ? and that vote would count toward the minimum number needed to make the vote valid.

If you vote no, you want only votes that prefereither yes or no to count toward the minimum number of voters needed to make the vote valid

Irrespective of this question, votes of "no preference" never count either for or against the majority needed to pass a proposal.

Then the voting stuff