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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


John H - Mar 14, 2003 7:25:35 pm PST #7614 of 10001

Steering very clear of any actual issues, but the Stompies are quite often in a difficult position -- if we still hold to the position that they have no moral authority over the board, only technical authority, like the caretaker in a school.

Nobody gets expelled by a caretaker, but the caretaker has the keys to everything, works different hours, is alert to safety issues and emergency situations, and has access to different areas, sees stuff that other members of staff don't see, as a result.


Rebecca Lizard - Mar 14, 2003 7:35:29 pm PST #7615 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

I see what you are saying now, PMM.

And OK I still I think I'm right but I'm not going to belabour a discussion we're Not Actually Having.


Nutty - Mar 14, 2003 8:41:16 pm PST #7616 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

FWIW, one of the things I proposed -- but tabled for now, because we can't nail down the voting procedure without a steam drill and John Henry -- was a formal definition of what Stompies do and don't do.

I'm kind of upset that there is admin-discussion before there is all-Buffista discussion on this issue. I'm kind of upset that the admins, who aren't supposed to be any different from the rest of the Buffistas, are getting to kind of decide what actions they will take on something, without any other Buffistas necessarily knowing about it.

And as someone who's not in the know, I think it inappropriate to discuss political matters not accessible to the entire board on the board. (Tantamount to saying, "I have good gossip sources and you don't" -- it's divisive and it encourages speculation.) I agree that there's a lot of vaguery in what Stompies are supposed to do, but let's lay it all out or keep it all in, not hint hint and allusion. Rl, if you feel there's dirty laundry to air, and that you have the right to air it, then air it; but if you don't want to air it, don't talk about it.


Elena - Mar 14, 2003 8:43:41 pm PST #7617 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

I agree with Nutty.


Rebecca Lizard - Mar 14, 2003 8:43:49 pm PST #7618 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

Rl, if you feel there's dirty laundry to air, and that you have the right to air it, then air it; but if you don't want to air it, don't talk about it.

(I hadn't brought it up!)

(And I *don't* feel I have the right to air it. As I'm not an admin; and therefore not completely informed as to what they've been doing. But I *want* to bring it up-- I'm not being coy for coy's sake-- and that is my problem.)


brenda m - Mar 14, 2003 8:45:17 pm PST #7619 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

we're Not Actually Having.

Except, of course, that some of us are.

And as someone who's not in the know, I think it inappropriate to discuss political matters not accessible to the entire board on the board.

This is really the source of my discomfort. I'll let it go.


Nutty - Mar 14, 2003 8:45:43 pm PST #7620 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Soooo, let's stop talking about it now, okay? I mean, I can see you have some kinds of concerns, but now and here are not the place to address them. Not unless you obtain the right to air whatever supplementary knowledge you seem to have.


John H - Mar 14, 2003 8:48:28 pm PST #7621 of 10001

Rebecca had a simple and valid point about the banning/unbanning thing, and it kind of got lost in all the innuendo.

Rebecca Lizard "Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier" Mar 14, 2003 7:27:09 pm EST


John H - Mar 14, 2003 8:50:44 pm PST #7622 of 10001

And jengod has said that stompies will make a comment about the situation soon: jengod "Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier" Mar 14, 2003 7:37:53 pm EST


DavidS - Mar 14, 2003 9:11:15 pm PST #7623 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Can I just ask people to wait until the Stompies can actually say what they have to say?