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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


John H - Mar 13, 2003 1:39:21 pm PST #7450 of 10001

Hey everyone.

Numbers, number, numbers.

I didn't propose rounding. I'd be happy to have 17 or 23 or 39 Buffistas. I put that in because someone, Laura or Jesse maybe, suggested it and there were no disagreements at the time.

I once said 100 for MVT (minimum voter turnout) but I really was pulling a number out of my ass that I knew I could do math on.

I had no reason at all for saying 100 other than that I know what 51% of a hundred is.

Quite a few people agreed, soon after, that it was a little high.

Hec shortly after came up with the number 65 because it was around half of the people who voted, 135. Now I look at it, I guess it's half of 135 rounded up to the nearest five...


Jesse - Mar 13, 2003 1:39:57 pm PST #7451 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm Jesse on a lot of this stuff like the above, except her unholy lust for the number 50, WHICH shalt doom her to an eternity in AN LAKE OF FIRE.

Just because SO MANY of you are MISTAKEN about the One True Number, I've resigned myself to living with a False Number. UNTIL THE DAY WHEN YOU SHALL ALL SEE THE ERROR OF YOUR WAYS.


Cindy - Mar 13, 2003 1:47:43 pm PST #7452 of 10001
Nobody

Hec shortly after came up with the number 65 because it was around half of the people who voted, 135. Now I look at it, I guess it's half of 135 rounded up to the nearest five...

*cough*arewetakingthezerosoutcompletely*cough*

eta:

The number 50 is the WHORE of BABYLON and Jesse is its PIMP.


P.M. Marc - Mar 13, 2003 1:51:50 pm PST #7453 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

17 is the ONE TRUE NUMBER. NILLY SHALL SHOW YOU THE WAY!!!

Sorry.

Right. No rounding. Just up to the nearest or down.


brenda m - Mar 13, 2003 1:52:34 pm PST #7454 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

But, Wolfram, if you change B to between 0 and 10, then, if you've voted NO for a) and vote 0 for b) then you've basically removed yourself from the decision if A passes despite your no vote, don't you?

My understanding is that we are going to average the results, so if it's only one question then seconding will automatically pass. Even if we were going to just use the number that comes up with the highest vote, it skews in favor of seconding. I'd rather see the question asked outright.

Can we add another question for the tabling (U.S.) of issues? Something along the lines of:

Once a subject has been raised for discussion and formally voted on, the results of that vote will be considered final and no futher discussion of that issue will be permitted for

a) 6 months b) 1 year


Jesse - Mar 13, 2003 1:53:58 pm PST #7455 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

(just glad this thread can make me laugh again. Carry on.)


amych - Mar 13, 2003 1:58:14 pm PST #7456 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

97!!


Sophia Brooks - Mar 13, 2003 1:59:27 pm PST #7457 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Once a subject has been raised for discussion and formally voted on, the results of that vote will be considered final and no futher discussion of that issue will be permitted for

a) 6 months b) 1 year

I like this, but we were previously thinking that it made too many questions on opne ballot. Does anyone still think this because I would like to add.

I am going to take out the rounding to the nearest 5 and put rounding to the nearest whole number.

Anything else?

I also seem to remember a question as to whether the abstention counted toward the majority (which will necessitate some special type of vote for each yes no abstain vote). Is there still a question? Personally I think it shouldn't, since an abstention means undecided and/or doesn't care one way opr the other.


P.M. Marc - Mar 13, 2003 2:00:37 pm PST #7458 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I like this, but we were previously thinking that it made too many questions on opne ballot. Does anyone still think this because I would like to add.

I'd like the time frame to remain off the ballot, because I think it needs to be discussed more. I think 6 months is too long. Perhaps 3.


brenda m - Mar 13, 2003 2:04:35 pm PST #7459 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I thought about adding three to that, but didn't want to get into the majority issue. And really, six is what I've seen most people advocating, so it seemed to me like something we could get decided without dragging this process on much longer.

I also seem to remember a question as to whether the abstention counted toward the majority (which will necessitate some special type of vote for each yes no abstain vote).

I think the question is whether it counts towards the MVT (which I think it should) - I can't imagine it counting towards the majority. But why would it require a special type of vote?