River: The human body can be drained of blood in 8.6 seconds given adequate vacuuming systems. Mal: See, morbid and creepifying, I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like.

'Safe'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Laura - Mar 12, 2003 12:25:22 pm PST #7283 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I have heard the call of the lurking masses who want only to know, “What are Laura’s views of the weighty decisions at hand?” So here goes:

ITEM 1: FORMAL DISCUSSION THREAD
As much fun as choosing names for a Supreme Court thread might be, I really think that one Bureaucracy thread is plenty. I don’t envision calls for quick tag fixes or thread name decisions getting lost in discussions of voting matters.
I could be swayed by a compelling argument, but I haven’t seen one yet.
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ITEM 2: CLOSE DISCUSSION
I think a No makes sense here. We do seem to live for enjoy discussion and calling an absolute halt at a specific moment in time seems impossible to enforce unlikely. Lobbyists have up until the moment I cast my vote to attempt to change my mind on issues.
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ITEM 3: VOTER TURNOUT
Part One: MNV - The claim that 50 is the only right answer is wrong as a thing that is wrong not quite right in my mind. Right now there is a high level of interest in voting, but that may not remain the case. Also, the numbers of active participants may vary during the summer or if there are no current ME shows. I’m thinking a number around 25 myself.
Part Two: Abstention votes should count toward the minimum and should always be an option. Because anything else would be wrong.
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ITEM 4: SECONDS
Yes, more than one Buffista should be needed to move to a formal discussion and vote.

I elect to use my right of abstention on this vote and leave the decision on this matter to my fellow Buffistas, in whom I have the utmost confidence to make a righteous decision.


Typo Boy - Mar 12, 2003 12:30:12 pm PST #7284 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I thought we were just going to do an averag ebecasue it was simpleist. If you are thinking about means and modes, then I am going to seriously argue for a binary walk - because it can't be easily skewed.


P.M. Marc - Mar 12, 2003 12:35:59 pm PST #7285 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I thought we were just going to do an averag ebecasue it was simpleist. If you are thinking about means and modes, then I am going to seriously argue for a binary walk - because it can't be easily skewed.

Means and medians were really the only two MoCT mentioned in all seriousness. Mode was not to be taken seriously.

Mean would make the most sense, w/median as a sanity check.


Jon B. - Mar 12, 2003 12:36:11 pm PST #7286 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

If you are thinking about means and modes

I haven't seen anyone seriously argue for using mode. And "mean" is average, isn't it? At least the way we've been defining it.

I don’t envision calls for quick tag fixes or thread name decisions getting lost in discussions of voting matters.

I do. I want the voting stuff to be separate.


P.M. Marc - Mar 12, 2003 12:39:47 pm PST #7287 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I haven't seen anyone seriously argue for using mode. And "mean" is average, isn't it? At least the way we've been defining it.

Yes. Also, Occam suggests more peeps know what average or "mean" is and how it works than binary walk. So, K.I.S.S. Just saying.

I do. I want the voting stuff to be separate.

ITA. Seeing as it's sort of happening at the moment, the thread name loss.


Jessica - Mar 12, 2003 12:40:41 pm PST #7288 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

All Hail Occam and His Mighty Razor.

I vote mean.


jengod - Mar 12, 2003 12:52:56 pm PST #7289 of 10001

X Marks the Natter Spot

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Kat - Mar 12, 2003 12:57:30 pm PST #7290 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

In honor of the ongoing Violent Femmes tribute we had going with Natter 8.

Natter 10 10 10 for everything everything everything everything!


John H - Mar 12, 2003 1:35:14 pm PST #7291 of 10001

Hate me for asking, but what's a Binary Walk?

It seems like there should be some bad joke I could use here along the lines of "what's a greek urn?" "about fifty drachma a week!" boom-tish, but I've just got up.

And Gar, for all I know a Binary Walk is the industry standard for doing this kind of thing, but the fact that I have to ask is the problem. I think we've learned through bitter experience that any math that needs explaining to people will raise hackles here.

Everyone will know what a mean is, and nearly everyone who uses the word "average" thinks of a mean when they say it, is my impression.


Nutty - Mar 12, 2003 2:02:32 pm PST #7292 of 10001
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

A binary walk is like a cakewalk. If you're standing on the right circle when the music stops, you win a bunch of ones and zeroes.

I never did figure out what an elephant walk is, but there's a restaurant by that name nor far from where I live.