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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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PaulJ - Mar 04, 2003 2:31:52 pm PST #6749 of 10001

On an item with three or more choices, the only way to get to 50%+1 is with an automated run-off system like the Australian ballot

Nope. You're assuming that people will be more or less evenly divided among the three choices, which doesn't have to be the case.


Jessica - Mar 04, 2003 2:32:00 pm PST #6750 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I was trying to say "if I bring up something highly controversial and we vote on it, at least then we know what 130-odd people think" rather than the situation where I bring it up and one or two people say they're offended and I should stop. I'll take the "five people hate me now" on the chin if I can ask for a vote and see what the other 125 think.

Ah, ok. Understanding sinks in.


Betsy HP - Mar 04, 2003 2:32:48 pm PST #6751 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

you will have to vote preferentially

Edit to "will either have to vote preferentially or have one or more runoff elections".


John H - Mar 04, 2003 2:32:51 pm PST #6752 of 10001

I think even that's going too far, Jon.

A lot of people weren't considering voting systems or ballots with more than one cholce on them at all. Or they might be happy with lots of runoffs.


John H - Mar 04, 2003 2:34:03 pm PST #6753 of 10001

There is one issue on which the first ballot was unclear for a substantial portion of voters.

Clearing that up will be a Good Thing.


Jon B. - Mar 04, 2003 2:34:43 pm PST #6754 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

You're assuming that people will be more or less evenly divided among the three choices, which doesn't have to be the case.

True, but you don't know that going in, so you need a system ahead of time to deal with that (somewhat likely) contingency.


Jon B. - Mar 04, 2003 2:35:48 pm PST #6755 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Edit to "will either have to vote preferentially or have one or more runoff elections".

Fair enough. I will edit.


Anathema - Mar 04, 2003 2:36:58 pm PST #6756 of 10001
Jonathan Will Always Be My Hero

How many Buffistas does it take to make a vote count?

Is it me, or did anyone immeadiately wonder how many Buffistas it takes to change a light bulb?

And, John, now I understand what you meant about not wanting to bring something up unless you know it can be voted upon. That makes sense.

However, I could say that just bringing something up in here is no assurance it's going to be voted upon anytime in the next decade.


PaulJ - Mar 04, 2003 2:36:58 pm PST #6757 of 10001

True, but you don't know that going in, so you need a system ahead of time to deal with that (somewhat likely) contingency.

Well, but that's exactly what my vote proposal was about, wasn't it? The vote that I proposed meant implicitly: "in the event of 3 or more choices, would you mind if the most voted choice was the winner?" (And if yo do mind, pick one of the other two).


Jessica - Mar 04, 2003 2:37:26 pm PST #6758 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Is it me, or did anyone immeadiately wonder how many Buffistas it takes to change a light bulb?

That's in the FAQ.