Eventually, I became one of the people making beer runs.

This might lighten the mood a bit. Or piss people off more.

I have to say that, despite having voted for voting, I have no decided to resuccitate my inner anarchist.

As such, with all due respect to your honorable ideas wolfram, I cannot support any notion of representation. I'm already starting to think that are previous anarchy was preferable to even the tiny modicum of democracy we've started here.

But this is just my $0.02, other Buffistas agreeing with me notwithstanding.

In many of the threads I visit, people are saying "What's going on in Bureaucracy? I'm afraid to look." And people are replying "You really don't want to know."

This is a really bad sign.

I honestly think that the solution is not to find better ways to make decisions more efficiently. The solution is to stop picking at the scab for awhile.

What I'm trying to do is have the membership imbue a few members with special dispensation

See that, right there? Noooooo. We have Stompies out of necessity, because once we moved to WX, we needed an admin or two to create threads and fix things. That's it. That's all.

What I'm trying to do is have the membership imbue a few members with special dispensation to bitch, moan, harangue, argue, scream, wail, and stomp on behalf of the rest of us.

Wolfram, I know what you're asking for. I understand your proposition.

I just disagree with it. I have heard your argument and I do not find it persuasive. Saying it again is not going to persuade me.

What I'm trying to do is have the membership imbue a few members with special dispensation to bitch, moan, harangue, argue, scream, wail, and stomp on behalf of the rest of us.

We all have that power already, to an extent. Except for the screaming and wailing. It bothers us.

I went dark grey just before all this started. FTR, I would have voted "No Voting."

Carry on, I'll be over in the corner.

I honestly think that the solution is not to find better ways to make decisions more efficiently. The solution is to stop picking at the scab for awhile.

I've rethought my position on shutting up about this for a while, because one of the specific things that was voted on was a discussion period, which isn't even 1/2 over yet.

But I think that we NEED a new thread for this shit, and we need it pretty much now.

We do not need a government. We do not want a government. The Stompies were chosen primarily based on their coding skills and timezone availability (for starting new threads). They are not, have never been, and will never be moderators of any kind.

This and Betsy's cocktail comment are key, IMHO.

The baby's good Wolfram. Beautiful, red-gold eyed, white-haired and a pain in the butt in the middle of the night, but definitely beautiful.

I'm still disagreeing with you, just in case you were wondering (and so this is not a nattery post).