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'Conversations with Dead People'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Jessica - Mar 03, 2003 5:26:00 pm PST #6394 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Am I also the one thinking that people saying "oh dear, a very long detailed discussion about voting, I don't like it, we should just try and achieve consensus..." are saying something kind of illogical?

No, for two reasons. First, the objection isn't to long detailed discussions in general, it's to long detailed, mathy discussions about voting. (And I say that as someone who rather enjoys math.)

Second, this is a long, detailed, Buffistish conversation whose goal is to be the last of its kind, which makes me kind of unhappy.

Wow, maybe I've just convinced myself I'm against voting altogether. Because voting would cut this process way short... and I love everyone's commitment to this place and the energy they put into it.

Great! Now we just need 64 more people, and a revote...


John H - Mar 03, 2003 5:26:05 pm PST #6395 of 10001

In an attempt to be the Most Annoying Buffista Ever, I have to say that I don't know the word "plurality" in this context -- it means "the biggest number"?


Betsy HP - Mar 03, 2003 5:27:20 pm PST #6396 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

If the vote goes 35-33-32, 35 is the plurality. So yup.


Jon B. - Mar 03, 2003 5:27:49 pm PST #6397 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I don't know the word "plurality" in this context -- it means "the biggest number"?

Yes. The choice that receives more votes than any other single choice.


§ ita § - Mar 03, 2003 5:28:29 pm PST #6398 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

this is a long, detailed, Buffistish conversation whose goal is to be the last of its kind

Okay -- I voted for at least 4 days of discussion. We've had one. How are we killing one day discussions?


John H - Mar 03, 2003 5:28:50 pm PST #6399 of 10001

I understood that "majority" meant "a number more than half".

I understood that "simple majority" meant fifty-per-cent-plus-one and that the other choice meant, for example, sixty-per-cent-plus-one, seventy-per-cent-plus-one, etc.


Jesse - Mar 03, 2003 5:36:06 pm PST #6400 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

OK, you know what? I think we should try preferential voting for JUST these two issues, and then we should do our damnedest to make yes/no questions in the future.

Although, I personally am not sure how I'll do ranking, because I know the One Right Answer.

(Honestly, the next thing I put forward is going to be Put Jesse In Charge of Everything.)

Also, all the "Auisitiriailiiiaini" stuff cracked me up.

That is all. Let me know when y'all want me to vote.


Jesse - Mar 03, 2003 5:37:07 pm PST #6401 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Shit. That wasn't all. It happens in Cambridge relatively often that the frontrunner loses, because everyone assumes they will win and so they give their #1 votes to someone else as a gesture. So it does happen In Real Life.


Betsy HP - Mar 03, 2003 5:37:37 pm PST #6402 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Works for me, Jesse. Both on your becoming Arbitrix of Everything (where do you stand on dark chocolate?) and on doing a preferential vote just this once.


DavidS - Mar 03, 2003 5:38:07 pm PST #6403 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I understood majority as greater than 50%.