Shit. That wasn't all. It happens in Cambridge relatively often that the frontrunner loses, because everyone assumes they will win and so they give their #1 votes to someone else as a gesture. So it does happen In Real Life.
Kaylee: H-how did you... g-get on...? Early: Strains the mind a bit, don't it? You think you're all alone. Maybe I come down the chimney, Kaylee. Bring presents to the good girls and boys.
'Objects In Space'
Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Jesse - Mar 03, 2003 5:37:07 pm PST #6401 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Betsy HP - Mar 03, 2003 5:37:37 pm PST #6402 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
Works for me, Jesse. Both on your becoming Arbitrix of Everything (where do you stand on dark chocolate?) and on doing a preferential vote just this once.
DavidS - Mar 03, 2003 5:38:07 pm PST #6403 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I understood majority as greater than 50%.
John H - Mar 03, 2003 5:44:48 pm PST #6404 of 10001
everyone assumes they will win and so they give their #1 votes to someone else as a gesture
What happens a lot here is that people also use their second vote as a kind of a hint -- I'll vote for Gore, because I hate Bush, but hey, Gore, look how I'm putting Nader second. I'm not a left-swinging rightwinger, pal, in case you were confused...
Wolfram - Mar 03, 2003 6:07:35 pm PST #6405 of 10001
Visilurking
I propose that we nominate and vote in a board of directors who can vote on all the little stuff for us, and we (the greater membership) only have to vote on board-shattering issues. Who's with me?
Gandalfe - Mar 03, 2003 6:08:47 pm PST #6406 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.
I think we should try preferential voting for JUST these two issues, and then we should do our damnedest to make yes/no questions in the future.
If my not-really-a-vote counts, I'm with . . . . everyone who said this.
brenda m - Mar 03, 2003 6:18:24 pm PST #6407 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
I like John's table, and Jon's suggestion that we try it this once and see how it goes. My gut tells me the discussion is way more complicated than the reality will prove to be.
I saw majority, wished for plurality (and I think I mentioned it at some point) but preferred majority over supermajority anyway so I went with it. In retrospect we could have been clearer.
Typo Boy - Mar 03, 2003 6:20:53 pm PST #6408 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
I'm with the try it once - then decide whether we ever do it again.
Gandalfe - Mar 03, 2003 6:26:41 pm PST #6409 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.
My gut tells me the discussion is way more complicated than the reality will prove to be.
I agree. The nitty-gritty might be complex, but we all (or most of us) either do our taxes every year or pay someone to do it, and this is NOTHING like that.
Kat - Mar 03, 2003 6:38:42 pm PST #6410 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
I understood majority as greater than 50%.
Ditto. I'm saying that to Hec a lot these days.
Do it or not. I am not for preferential voting because like Jesse, I know the one true answer. So can I NOT rank it past my number one?
When it comes to non-USian voting, I prefer cumulative voting (which is what I do in my class). Allow people to vote for more than one, but then also allow them to place more than one vote. So I get 5 votes but I can either spread them evenly (in the I-don't-care model where everything is fine with me) or I can stack 5 votes on a single choice. Or I can split 3 and 2.
Long live Lani Guinier!
We won't have a revote on whether or not to vote because it's been decided and my understanding is you need a 6 month wait before we redo any of it.