Also, I changed Jesse's last question a bit.

I was trying to do a pro/con for the formal thread, and was realizing that we have to vote on whether or not we want to put a moratorium on a proposal for a certain period BEFORE we vote on the thread-- as a lot of my pros have to do with the ease of making the discussion stop (by turning off the thread)

I would suggest that instead of voting on ranges we allow people to fill in a number, and after the vote we post the results. That way we can extrapolate where the majority votes lay, rather than figure out what ranges to put and which voting and counting methods to use.

Heh. And some folks thought a preferential ballot would be complicated?

I think Items 1 and 2 above are fine as is.

ITEM 3a: VOTER TURNOUT

How many Buffistas does it take to make a vote count? I propose a set of choices: 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, or 60 to be determined by the Australian method of preferential voting.

ITEM 3b: ABSTENTIONS

Do abstentions count toward the number in 3a? Yes or no.

If you vote yes, you would allow people to register their vote as an abstention -- that is, with no preference for either choice -- and that vote would count toward the minimum number.

If you vote no, you want only votes that prefer one option to count toward the minimum.

ITEM 4: SECONDS

Before a proposal moves to formal discussion, what should be the minimum number of people who have to "second" the motion? 0, 1, 2, 3, or 4 to be determined by the Australian method of preferential voting.

Jon's modifications work for me. We'll need a brief and simple (hah) explanation of Austrailian Rules Voting to attach, though.

Heh. And some folks thought a preferential ballot would be complicated?

I'm trying to uncomplicate it by allowing everyone to post a number without artificially skewing the results. Then we can argue about how to interpret the numbers (although my gut sense with no way of backing this up is that after the vote it will be fairly straightforward.)

Even if we do end up with a range, I think we still need to include a write-in option for the Quorum and Second votes so everyone's opinion gets represented fairly. And of course to give some of us a chance to vote Monkey.

I like that, Jon, but like Brendas numbers for the seconds more. I think a few people like the "10" for a "second"

Can we add item 1a.-- "So mote it be...."

After a complete round of voting, the proposal cannot be voted on again for:

a) 0 days b) 6 months c) 1 year.

I think we still need to include a write-in option for the Quorum and Second votes so everyone's opinion gets represented fairly.

I think we need to decide now, by consensus, what the range of choices should be. I'm trying to prevent multiple votes. I've suggested a range of numbers for each question. If anyone thinks that there should be more specific choices, then voice your opinion.

I think a few people like the "10" for a "second"

So 0 to 10 (eleven choices) for seconds?

So 0 to 10 (eleven choices) for seconds?

0,3,5,10? I don't think we need to include every number in the range.

I don't think we need to include every number in the range.

I know, I know. Maybe 0, 2, 4, 6, 8, 10 as a compromise?