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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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DavidS - Mar 02, 2003 10:11:55 pm PST #6148 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Thank you so much, jengod!

Next questions are, I guess, deciding what our 'quorum' should be.

Definitely one of the first questions. Might be good to bring back Sophia's list again, pare that down until we see the obvious next steps. Let's try to focus on one element at at time, and spend some time ordering what things need to be decided.

Thank you everybody for participating in creating the ballot, and voting.


Sophia Brooks - Mar 02, 2003 10:13:07 pm PST #6149 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I'll pst the list tomorrow am.

Also, the 2 direct things from this vote that still need to be decided are the quorum and whether or not the discussion is closed once voting begins.


Elena - Mar 02, 2003 10:33:22 pm PST #6150 of 10001
Thanks for all the fish.

You know, the thing I really want to accomplish from all of this is (well, sure, I want all Buffistae to feel a part of the decision making process, blah, blah, blah) to limit the discussion on issues. I know we talk a lot, and always have, but it's really getting hard to read all the posts. Which I feel compelled to do.


jengod - Mar 02, 2003 10:33:37 pm PST #6151 of 10001

If I may provide color commentary as well as doing the numbers...

  • FTR, not that it matters, I'd say 5/6 of the ballots were Buffistas whose nom de board I recognized, versus lurkers. (Not that I post in every thread, all the time, so YLurkersMV.)

  • Some people, with a sense of I dunno, consistency, voted no on majority voting and then abstained from the rest. Others voted no and then still had opinions. IJS.

  • [edit] Oh yeah! Thanks to Shawn for mentioning this downstream. I'm editing to add it b/c it's interesting. We have 800 registered users, plus maybe a handful, and 135 folks voted. So we have a 17%-ish turnout.

  • The majority of votes came in the first 3 days, so I think the 3-day voting period is probably an okay plan.

A breakdown. All times local to me -- PST.

Day# of Votes% of Ballots Tue.3828.1% Wed.7253.4% Thur.1410.4% Fri.21.5% Sat.64.4% Sun.32.2%


Gandalfe - Mar 02, 2003 10:35:02 pm PST #6152 of 10001
The generation that could change the world is still looking for its car keys.

The big jump on Saturday (300%) suggests that we make sure to have at least 1 of the voting days be a weekend day, for those who can't do it at work.

It doesn't affect me, but . . . .


Jessica - Mar 02, 2003 10:35:18 pm PST #6153 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Some people, with a sense of I dunno, consistency, voted no on majority voting and then abstained from the rest. Others voted no and then still had opinions.

Some of us assumed we'd be in the minority on issue #1, and yet didn't feel that that should make our opinions on issues #2-4 invalid.


jengod - Mar 02, 2003 10:39:37 pm PST #6154 of 10001

No, that's totally cool! I thought it was totally cool! It was, like, honorable.


jengod - Mar 02, 2003 10:40:22 pm PST #6155 of 10001

The big jump on Saturday (300%) suggests that we make sure to have at least 1 of the voting days be a weekend day, for those who can't do it at work.

He's kidding, right?


§ ita § - Mar 02, 2003 10:40:56 pm PST #6156 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He's kidding, right?

You might want to ask him, but why are you so convinced?


jengod - Mar 02, 2003 10:43:09 pm PST #6157 of 10001

Dost Gandalfe jest?

Because Saturday had *6* people. And if we're always wiggling around trying to grab a weekend day for voting we're going to get even more mired down.