When you look back at this, in the three seconds it'll take you to turn to dust, I think you'll find the mistake was touching my stuff.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Kat - Feb 27, 2003 9:46:14 pm PST #5948 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

And we better watch it or the UN is going to send election observers to monitor our polling. All because of the monkey lover ballot stuffers.


billytea - Feb 27, 2003 9:50:05 pm PST #5949 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

In fact, for those who were wondering why conversation should cease when voting commences -- this conversation feels like a classic example.

Y'know, much of the conversation has been clarifying what the proposals being voted upon actually mean, and what their implications might be; but I think you're right. It feels like it generates more confusion than it addresses.

So if we have a vote on ceasing discussion while voting, I think you've convinced me to go the yes.


billytea - Feb 27, 2003 9:50:43 pm PST #5950 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

And we better watch it or the UN is going to send election observers to monitor our polling. All because of the monkey lover ballot stuffers.

t sheepishly admits he created a fifth ballot item to vote Monkey


Kat - Feb 27, 2003 9:53:16 pm PST #5951 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Y'know, much of the conversation has been clarifying what the proposals being voted upon actually mean, and what their implications might be; but I think you're right. It feels like it generates more confusion than it addresses.

I agree with folks upthread. I think the "What If" game just leads to more confusion and upset. We don't know yet what will pass and what won't. It seems logical to wait until we know the results before we really start pulling things apart to figure out what it all means.


billytea - Feb 27, 2003 9:55:10 pm PST #5952 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

But I think the "What If" game just leads to more confusion and upset.

Yes; that's where I was agreeing with you.


Kat - Feb 27, 2003 9:56:07 pm PST #5953 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I know. I just like being agreed with so I thought I'd reiterate. Cause since I've decided to cut back on The Phoenix, I'm not getting the same amount of validation that I used to.


Connie Neil - Feb 27, 2003 9:57:11 pm PST #5954 of 10001
brillig

I just want to say that that voting form kicked butt. Very simple to use. Thanks.


Angus G - Feb 27, 2003 9:58:30 pm PST #5955 of 10001
Roguish Laird

Kat, I agree with everything you have ever said, and, for the record, everything you will ever say.

Well, almost everything.


billytea - Feb 27, 2003 9:59:20 pm PST #5956 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Cause since I've decided to cut back on The Phoenix, I'm not getting the same amount of validation that I used to.

t stamps Kat's parking ticket


John H - Feb 27, 2003 10:00:24 pm PST #5957 of 10001

This is kind of a Buffistechnology thing, but has anyone, and by "anyone" I mean Jon B, considered the HTML-form and/or PHP complexities of preference-based voting?

I mean radio buttons are really very simple. Yes, No, Don't Care, with a built-in checker right there in the browser interface that no more than one button is down.

If you're going to give me n options, and require me to give each a number between one and n, and not use any number twice, and not miss any option out, oy, the checking and the validation involved!

This, as billytea points out, is why such preferential voting systems have a "Put a big X next to the Labor Party and don't worry your pretty little head about those bothersome preferences, we'll sort it out for you" option.