And we better watch it or the UN is going to send election observers to monitor our polling. All because of the monkey lover ballot stuffers.

t sheepishly admits he created a fifth ballot item to vote Monkey

Y'know, much of the conversation has been clarifying what the proposals being voted upon actually mean, and what their implications might be; but I think you're right. It feels like it generates more confusion than it addresses.

I agree with folks upthread. I think the "What If" game just leads to more confusion and upset. We don't know yet what will pass and what won't. It seems logical to wait until we know the results before we really start pulling things apart to figure out what it all means.

But I think the "What If" game just leads to more confusion and upset.

Yes; that's where I was agreeing with you.

I know. I just like being agreed with so I thought I'd reiterate. Cause since I've decided to cut back on The Phoenix, I'm not getting the same amount of validation that I used to.

I just want to say that that voting form kicked butt. Very simple to use. Thanks.

Kat, I agree with everything you have ever said, and, for the record, everything you will ever say.

Well, almost everything.

Cause since I've decided to cut back on The Phoenix, I'm not getting the same amount of validation that I used to.

t stamps Kat's parking ticket

This is kind of a Buffistechnology thing, but has anyone, and by "anyone" I mean Jon B, considered the HTML-form and/or PHP complexities of preference-based voting?

I mean radio buttons are really very simple. Yes, No, Don't Care, with a built-in checker right there in the browser interface that no more than one button is down.

If you're going to give me n options, and require me to give each a number between one and n, and not use any number twice, and not miss any option out, oy, the checking and the validation involved!

This, as billytea points out, is why such preferential voting systems have a "Put a big X next to the Labor Party and don't worry your pretty little head about those bothersome preferences, we'll sort it out for you" option.

Kat, I agree with everything you have ever said, and, for the record, everything you will ever say.

Well, almost everything.

Aw, Angus. So sweet. So we agree on everything except things on which we disagree. I can live with that.

stamps Kat's parking ticket

I do live in LA, billytea, I get plenty of parking validation on a regular basis.

Hey John! It's good to see you back again.

I'm taking my nattery self away until we find out the results of voting. Then I'm gonna become lobby/advocacy girl. Or not depending on the result.

But I still think of myself as the Speaker of the House! Kristen remains the Whip.

edited for sensemaking.

Hey Kat, nice to see you too.