First rule of bureaucracy deathmatch: There are no rules.
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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier
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Wolfram - Feb 27, 2003 4:14:02 pm PST #5890 of 10001
Visilurking
§ ita § - Feb 27, 2003 4:14:42 pm PST #5891 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
First rule of bureaucracy deathmatch: There are no rules.
It was for your own protection.
Don't say I didn't pretend I was civil.
P.M. Marc - Feb 27, 2003 4:15:34 pm PST #5892 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Can we call Bureaucracy 2: Like Sartre, Only Longer?
Hil R. - Feb 27, 2003 4:15:48 pm PST #5893 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
I think for that to happen, we have to ALWAYS frame voting questions into yes/no. Which I don't know is possible.
Can you think of an example where it wouldn't be possible? I can't think of anything we've decided recently that was more than a "should we do this?" question.
Wolfram - Feb 27, 2003 4:16:09 pm PST #5894 of 10001
Visilurking
jengod is me, except item 6 is backwards.
billytea - Feb 27, 2003 4:17:33 pm PST #5895 of 10001
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.
I understand that Borda and Condorcet and Australian are "simple", but they don't seem it. They give me a headsche and they aren't transperent (and I took a whole course on hem at college1)
I can understand this. I mean, these systems are devised to be fair, to avoid certain distortions, and they do so by creating mathematical formulae that are not everyone's cup of tea.
But seriously, all a user needs to know is what they do to register a vote, and then what it does in principle. For instance, I'd describe the Australian system thus:
1. Each voter ranks all the candidates in order of preference.
2. The system works out the two most popular candidates, and then finds which one of them most voters prefer. That candidate wins.
Yes, the maths is more complicated than that. But to the user, that's not such an issue. All the maths talk is so much geekery (which is why I've been doing it, of course). For anyone else, I think the above is all that's needed to understand it.
jengod - Feb 27, 2003 4:17:58 pm PST #5896 of 10001
7.) If there are more than three choices regarding any particular issue (thread titles come to mind), a [fill in blank] of votes wins the day.
(If we stay with the three day voting period, this makes sense. Otherwise, we're going to be having about a billion ballots before we get to a thread name, etc.)
Sophia Brooks - Feb 27, 2003 4:18:01 pm PST #5897 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here
Can you think of an example where it wouldn't be possible? I can't think of anything we've decided recently that was more than a "should we do this?" question.
Unfortunately, yes. Spoiler policy for Buffy and Angel cross pollination. Some people wanted 1 week, some the weekend, some 2 weeks, some "until the next show". What we could do is hope to hash that out in discussion and just vote for one choice, Only problem with that is that it might knock mentioning the policy out for 6 months--then we could vote again, except by that time Buffy is cancelled.
Wolfram - Feb 27, 2003 4:18:13 pm PST #5898 of 10001
Visilurking
It was for your own protection.
Don't say I didn't pretend I was civil.
I've got two months of TKD and a big trash-talking maw. Bring it.
jengod - Feb 27, 2003 4:19:02 pm PST #5899 of 10001
Okay, how about TWO deathmatches.
Two-item ballots:
1.) Simple majority
2.) Two-thirds majority
Three-plus item ballots:
1.) Plurality
2.) 50%+1