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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Sophia Brooks - Feb 25, 2003 7:57:34 pm PST #5507 of 10001
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OK - a question on Item 4. I think seven days total is enough. But I don't think discussion should be closed once voting starts. In other words all seven days should be discussion, though obviously once voting starts the text can't change. So given the wording - do I vote yes or no on Item 4? Because it looks like if 4 wins, discussion is closed once voting starts.

Should we add a note about voting later as to whether discussion should be allowed the whole time?


Sophia Brooks - Feb 25, 2003 8:00:41 pm PST #5508 of 10001
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The reason I said above is that I personally could envision 4 days of discussion, ironing out the final wording of the proposal AND discussing it. The 3 days of voting, where the discussion could continue, but nothing would change the proposal.


Jon B. - Feb 25, 2003 8:00:48 pm PST #5509 of 10001
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Lyra Jane suggested am alternative Jesse. See Lyra Jane "Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier" Feb 25, 2003 4:49:34 pm EST

I would amend #4 as follows:

A yes vote on this item signifies the voter agrees that a full week's time is sufficient to discuss the issue. The week would be broken down thusly: Discussion: Days 1, 2, 3, and 4. Voting: Days 5, 6, 7. When there is a conflict for major holidays (to be defined) we will make accomodations (to be defined) as needed. We will vote later on whether discussions end on day 4 or continue during the votes.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 25, 2003 8:02:18 pm PST #5510 of 10001
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Thanks Jon! And thanks for working on the form!


Typo Boy - Feb 25, 2003 8:02:26 pm PST #5511 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

I think if voting has been announced, we can't change the item. But we could add a note that voting yes closes discussion after the 3rd (or is it 4th) day.


Jesse - Feb 25, 2003 8:03:51 pm PST #5512 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

At this point, I don't care either way. So Lyra Jane's addition is fine by me.


Typo Boy - Feb 25, 2003 8:03:53 pm PST #5513 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

If we can amend 4 like that I'm in favor of it. Have we announced text as a final version? Ah checking press, the wording was only announced as a draft. So we can modify.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 25, 2003 8:04:38 pm PST #5514 of 10001
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Formal voting hasn'y been announced and won't be until midnight.

We announced the proposal (which propsed voting), but are up for revisions up to midnight tonight.

This is really confusing.


DavidS - Feb 25, 2003 8:13:18 pm PST #5515 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

This is really confusing.

We're okay. We can keep the polls open on this first go round to make sure everybody is enfranchised. People have to get used to the idea of voting.

If 4 gets shot down, then we just come back and find a date range that feels fair. If #1 gets rejected, then it's mass chaos and anarchy.


Sophia Brooks - Feb 25, 2003 8:23:12 pm PST #5516 of 10001
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So anyone else want to weigh in on

1) whether we extend the voting period in this announcement or later if needed.

2) whether we change the wording on #4 to Lyra's.