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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

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Jesse - Feb 25, 2003 6:00:18 pm PST #5476 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Me, too, but I till feel a bit like there are people who are not necessarily against voting, but against talking about it.

Anyone who's against voting can, just this once, vote. And vote against it, and if there are enough of them, So Shall It Be.


John H - Feb 25, 2003 6:23:23 pm PST #5477 of 10001

I just caught up with all this. Huge thanks to everyone for all their hard work. I'll be voting.

All of this reminded me of a quote from John Ralston Saul:

I think we've forgotten the energy which it required [...] our fathers and our mothers and our grandparents and our great-grandparents to put in place the basic structures of Australian and Canadian democracy such as the public education system. They fought very hard for that, it didn't come from the top, it came from throughout society, and you don't get to keep things in democracies just because you've got them, you get to keep them because you continue struggling and fighting, giving enormous amounts of your time, boring yourself to death at meetings, trying desperately to get along with people [...]

It is boring sometimes, but at the same time it's very moving, to me at least, that the work gets done.


Jesse - Feb 25, 2003 6:30:40 pm PST #5478 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

John!!


Sophia Brooks - Feb 25, 2003 6:31:03 pm PST #5479 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Hi John!!!


Holli - Feb 25, 2003 6:31:29 pm PST #5480 of 10001
an overblown libretto and a sumptuous score/ could never contain the contradictions I adore

John! Dude!

Why, no, this post had no content, why do you ask?


John H - Feb 25, 2003 6:41:35 pm PST #5481 of 10001

I'm sure this counts as natter but yeah, hey everyone. Shouldn't you all be watching Buffy or something?

Oh, I can make this on-topic, I do have a bureacracy note.

Please can we have times expressed as fully as possible?

I see people saying "voting is not open because it's not Wednesday yet" and I'm halfway through my Wednesday.

I would like to see "9.30 PM tonight" phrased "Feb 25, 2003 9:30:00 pm -- Board Time" because I am simply not smart enough to figure out what "9.30 PM tonight" or "9.30 PM Wednesday night" means for me in Sydney, but just by looking at the posts here I can figure out what it means in Board Time ... an hour from now, roughly.


meara - Feb 25, 2003 6:42:45 pm PST #5482 of 10001

Yeah, I was thinking that earlier, that we definitely have to make sure it explains board time (of course, having a post that says "open NOW!" and "closed NOW!" will help, but.)

(And welcome back, John!)


Consuela - Feb 25, 2003 6:45:45 pm PST #5483 of 10001
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Make it Board Time or GMT or something.

And Hey, Look, it's JOHN! Yay John! Good to see you.

I'm also wicked fucking impressed with the Constitutional Convention. And I'm sorry I'm not participating much but you're all doing great without my help so I'm not that sorry.


Jesse - Feb 25, 2003 6:46:57 pm PST #5484 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Board time. No one has to do math (or, if you prefer, maths), they just have to look at the posts.


John H - Feb 25, 2003 6:50:17 pm PST #5485 of 10001

I prefer board time to anything else because anyone who's on the board can see what board time it is. Even if they have to post to be sure.

Say that voting opens at midnight board time? When is that? Consuela's post just appeared at 8.45 PM, so that's three hours and fifteen minutes away, so I'm happy.

Only, is it midnight board time? Someone correct me if not.

Off to apartment-hunt with my wife; see you all later.