Fred: So you don't worry that it's possible for someone to send out a biological or electronic trigger that effectively overrides your own sense of ideals and values and replaces them with an alternative coercive agenda that reduces you to a mindless meat puppet? Shopkeeper: Wow. People used to think that I was paranoid.
'Time Bomb'
Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier
A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.
Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych
Typo Boy - Feb 24, 2003 6:14:08 pm PST #5335 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Cindy - Feb 24, 2003 6:15:01 pm PST #5336 of 10001
Nobody
I'd agree to a discussion on a topic I end up not caring enough about to vote on.
Me too. In fact, I'm against making someone rally support to discuss an issue. We've never done it that way here. So when we do vote on seconds at some point, I'll vote against it, and if it passes anyway, I'll second any point anyone wants to discuss. Because if a Buffista wants to discuss something at the Buffista board, a Buffista should get to discuss something.
§ ita § - Feb 24, 2003 6:15:02 pm PST #5337 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
people are less likely to propose something they can't get much enthusiaism for
How will they know beforehand?
Cindy - Feb 24, 2003 6:15:34 pm PST #5338 of 10001
Nobody
or something.
Typo Boy - Feb 24, 2003 6:17:05 pm PST #5339 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
OK - deleted after x-post with Cindy. I see your point; I just think that in practice they are related. Even if we don't have a Supreme Court thread - we could use seconds to limit discussion in Kafka.
If we are voting on whether to limit discussion (and we are) and voting on whether to have quorum (and we are) then I think seconds should be included. Because - even though they are not redundant in strict logic - in practice they do very similar things.
Typo Boy - Feb 24, 2003 6:21:33 pm PST #5340 of 10001
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
There are people who support the idea of seconds; they were posting earlier, but not now. I'm wondering if anyone who opposes having seconds on this ballot supports it in general?
But seconding is not stopping Buffista discusison in general. It avoids starting a particular formal process that requires labor on the part of buffistas when there is no chance of something passing.
Jesse - Feb 24, 2003 6:22:58 pm PST #5341 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I actually do think I support it in general. I don't support it on this ballot.
§ ita § - Feb 24, 2003 6:24:28 pm PST #5342 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
If we don't discuss it on this ballot, what damage have we done?
Jon B. - Feb 24, 2003 6:27:11 pm PST #5343 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!
I'm wondering if anyone who opposes having seconds on this ballot supports it in general?
I'm not sure yet whether I support it in general. Don't support it on the ballot.
Jesse - Feb 24, 2003 6:27:32 pm PST #5344 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Mostly, I just want to start the time-limited discussions.